X-Authentication-Warning:	delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f
X-Recipient:	geda-user AT delorie DOT com
X-Original-DKIM-Signature:	v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
	d=gmail.com; s=20210112;
	h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to;
	bh=+ucw6/5JLXbmEqr+WOZRZUg7gyzOnBWkMBOTutrblIQ=;
	b=QcfWEuPRmV7tyVo0w9d9R/O22nZXCcRy3UbLBaINlbCdJ29TZU0mpZCsgacQUs0LWf
	z4Wf53R3Lesh23l8BUem/cXIQu4MaRpaEMH3VCtXzjA22US73GndY+ypcXo5VrEFLIo6
	WibcetHg/En7FY4hIZ+Yenvy1U6g3MwKMBjhOZi4JWW4rLDG7bozNo+c5kezsiqTNx7N
	vboM1YyigJjnLiXRicoo4QZa25lYm9frvFbhgSKxie5JJX/xCu/Jx2HOHtilcU6dn0LO
	FXiaH1/urRP/Mdz1LYp4wrVoxNBsjrsOZkOO/dHK5gzlzj6X/I0mtqq5rGjOXEZem+r6
	K5gQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature:	v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
	d=1e100.net; s=20210112;
	h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date
	:message-id:subject:to;
	bh=+ucw6/5JLXbmEqr+WOZRZUg7gyzOnBWkMBOTutrblIQ=;
	b=prfPV5qYFy9aYNKGM/FjqzHBD+eRoH3QSe0xU967DFXJ9teyVnDidszp64slqZaYdr
	lCLG6/ZT67aMzetTRGODLvwBKbPVzT2iFQbt/H/dPvZVDTfnOsKSpnLfiTB4dg1oU8CA
	qJcfpd3+GCr1Q+SQL1ZIxZ7AX/HbJxyIu1+gL3l8hfY/J2s0BNc48rg7kOdYW2n6O1e4
	Ud7XTm/39PJSXIaxu7G0xgUgVBicrBpQg3/dXFv4iTPv0Pdws2DaqGT8Y6sFcDFTw1ft
	q9OhhGtZEWK6j3AHBwSlVq6FxWNSFPZ7AMa5meFLs/8SxnbH/4PAS6guX+2vwloREVl1
	UdjQ==
X-Gm-Message-State:	AOAM533/jc94cRBe3hcZBNRHV8Uf1cm75chhAinyYj2DmEwpTGJlCEKe
	6kSAZP4pjM1lJW8FdUB98iuGKymYy3LQgvE90dOsrh0K
X-Google-Smtp-Source:	ABdhPJyVrqJy2f5yGb3TNwGGIw5cCbAfoXKbiK/7BaL62ybE5Yxg1mZgG+y+4SPxeziF3rFXMmU01Wm29COTbGBaO0o=
X-Received:	by 2002:a2e:9703:: with SMTP id r3mr10723171lji.422.1636669962138;
	Thu, 11 Nov 2021 14:32:42 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version:	1.0
References:	<20211111163908 DOT 16668 DOT qmail AT rahul DOT net>
In-Reply-To:	<20211111163908.16668.qmail@rahul.net>
From:	"Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Date:	Fri, 12 Nov 2021 09:02:30 +1030
Message-ID:	<CAHUm0tPyY0yhrrYpmnCk+eVidBykkkTwqiePqQkv=TO6YoRSTA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject:	Re: [geda-user] pcb-rnd vs pcb?
To:	geda-user <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
Reply-To:	geda-user AT delorie DOT com

--000000000000b5358305d08aeb34
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

pcb-rnd has a very simple horizontal-vertical internal autorouter within
its autorouting window,  along with two experimental more topologically
based routers which are part of route-rnd, based on the Tal Dayan thesis.

pcb-rnd also supports specctra dsn export to allow external autorouters to
be used.

A headless version of the java freerouting application also works pretty
seemlessly from within pcb-rnd's autorouting dialogue

http://repo.hu/projects/freerouting_cli/

Alternatively,  you can fire up the GUI freerouting application,

https://github.com/freerouting/freerouting

then autoroute the dsn file exported from pcb-rnd,  then export the
resulting specctra session file,  and import it back into pcb-rnd.

It would pay to check on the pcb-rnd mailing list as to the plans for the
legacy gEDA PCB internal autorouter code.

Regards,

Erich



On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:19 conover AT rahul DOT net (John Conover) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Is there a way to use the auto router from pcb in pcb-rnd?
>
> pcb-rnd's auto router seems inferior to pcb's.
>
> I tried routing 44 legacy designs done with pcb, (with pcb-rnd,) and
> none routed to completion.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     John
>
> --
>
> John Conover, conover AT rahul DOT net, http://www.johncon.com/
>

--000000000000b5358305d08aeb34
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"auto">pcb-rnd has a very simple horizontal-vertical internal au=
torouter within its autorouting window,=C2=A0 along with two experimental m=
ore topologically based routers which are part of route-rnd, based on the T=
al Dayan thesis.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">pcb-rnd=
 also supports specctra dsn export to allow external autorouters to be used=
.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A headless version of =
the java freerouting application also works pretty seemlessly from within p=
cb-rnd&#39;s autorouting dialogue</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><a href=3D"http://repo.hu/projects/freerouting_cli/">http://repo.=
hu/projects/freerouting_cli/</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Alternatively,=C2=A0 you can fire up the GUI freerouting appli=
cation,=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D=
"https://github.com/freerouting/freerouting">https://github.com/freerouting=
/freerouting</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">the=
n autoroute the dsn file exported from pcb-rnd,=C2=A0 then export the resul=
ting specctra session file,=C2=A0 and import it back into pcb-rnd.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It would pay to check on t=
he pcb-rnd mailing list as to the plans for the legacy gEDA PCB internal au=
torouter code.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 03:19=
 <a href=3D"mailto:conover AT rahul DOT net">conover AT rahul DOT net</a> (John Conover) =
[via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>], &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Is there a way to use the aut=
o router from pcb in pcb-rnd?<br>
<br>
pcb-rnd&#39;s auto router seems inferior to pcb&#39;s.<br>
<br>
I tried routing 44 legacy designs done with pcb, (with pcb-rnd,) and<br>
none routed to completion.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 John<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
John Conover, <a href=3D"mailto:conover AT rahul DOT net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">conover AT rahul DOT net</a>, <a href=3D"http://www.johncon.com/" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.johncon.com/</a><br=
>
</blockquote></div>

--000000000000b5358305d08aeb34--

- Raw text -