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On 12/27/20 7:59 PM, Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via 
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Roland Lutz wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2020, Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>> I am able to duplicate this. But...CTRL+P or File/Print works the fist
>>> time. Only File/Print works after that. I also get the error message
>>> Girvin mentioned.
>> It's weird that only one of the shortcuts is affected.  Plus, gEDA/gaf
>> doesn't even use DBus as far as I can tell.
>>
>>
> This *may* be because Slackware is a bare bones distro. So it does not
> include the avahi deamon. (There is a slackbuilds.org script for adding
> it if desired.)

GH: Not so bare bones to me. I remember when Slack came on a few 
floppies, then a couple CDs, then a set of 6 CDs, and now a DVD (I think 
you can still get the 6 CD version, but IIRC, it does not include 
everything that is on the DVD). Many of the packages I had to install in 
the past are now included in the standard distro. Slack has grown a lot 
since the 90s. But yes, it still does not include everything in the 
Linux world, but that is what SlackBuilds.org is for. Even then, I run 
across a package SBo does not have and I have to get the source and 
build it myself. In fact, the last I checked (just now) SBo only had 
gEDA-gaf 1.8.2, so I am building 1.10.x on my own.

> Also, gtk+ has a Openprinting API (PAPI) backend which AFAICT may very
> well use dbus as part of it's activities. To tell for certain I would
> have to rebuild and reinstall gtk+ without PAPI and then see if the
> error goes away. At the moment I'm not really that motivated. If you
> aren't seeing the error on your system check to see if you have the
> avahi deamon running.
>
> In any case it doesn't strike me as being directly related to the
> shortcut issue, unless the error is somehow disabling the shortcut.
>
> Glenn

Glenn,

I had to check if avahi is installed on my system now, and it isn't. No 
avahi daemon running either. "avahi" rang a bell, so I think I had to 
install it on the previous Slack (14.1?). I would have to go down to the 
basement archives to research when and why I had to install avahi, if I did.

Note also that IIRC, I have seen similar dbus messages when shutting 
down X (xfce). But then, anything can happen when shutting down and I 
have ignored it.

The dbus messages popping up in the gschem status window is not a 
show-stopper to me. It is more of an annoyance and a red flag that 
something is not quite right.

Thanks.
Girvin

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