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Subject: Re: [geda-user] A proposal to allow simulation only component to be
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:06:08 -0400
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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Nicklas SB Karlsson (nk AT nksb DOT online) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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> Use hierarchical design there one top level is used in ordinary =
schematic while the other top level is used for simulation?

That=E2=80=99s one way to do it. There are others.

For a flat design, you can have a simulation page that injects power and =
signals into named nets in the pages representing the board design. Just =
leave that page out when building your layout netlist.

Another way is to give the connectors on your board spice-prototype =
attributes representing power and signal sources.

The spice-noqsi back end is basically a macro expander for injecting =
attributes into SPICE cards. How that works in your flow depends on how =
you write your prototypes. The default prototypes mimic the spece-sdb =
back end, but you need not go that way.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com




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class=3D"">On Oct 16, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Nicklas SB Karlsson (<a =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Use hierarchical design there =
one top level is used in ordinary schematic while the other top level is =
used for simulation?</span></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div><div>That=E2=80=99s one way to do it. There are =
others.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>For a flat design, you can =
have a simulation page that injects power and signals into named nets in =
the pages representing the board design. Just leave that page out when =
building your layout netlist.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Another =
way is to give the connectors on your board spice-prototype attributes =
representing power and signal sources.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>The spice-noqsi back end is basically a macro =
expander for injecting attributes into SPICE cards. How that works in =
your flow depends on how you write your prototypes. The default =
prototypes mimic the spece-sdb back end, but you need not go that =
way.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">
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