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| From: | "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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| Date: | Tue, 21 May 2019 08:29:55 +0930
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| Subject: | Re: [geda-user] RS-274D Gerber Conversion
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If the project is non urgent and is not commercial in confidence, i could
probably add support to the gerber parser used in translate2geda and
translate2coralEDA if i had example files to work with.
Erich.
On Tue, 21 May 2019 08:22 Erich Heinzle, <a1039181 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will also import gerbers, not just
> viewplot, it seems. You won't need the polygonal flashed aperture support
> of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non round pibs, i suspect. Try impirting
> directly into the layout tool, then exporting. Failing that, InputGerber.c
> has most of the code you need.
>
> Erich.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Erich,
>>
>> PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber
>> correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the
>> Gerber files in RS-274X format.
>>
>> I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older
>> Gerber file format.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek
>>
>> On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>> > The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code appears to
>> cope
>> > with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers
>> > and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb
>> > elegance.
>> >
>> > Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with
>> > translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into
>> > pcb-rnd.
>> >
>> > I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their
>> > gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashed
>> > apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a
>> 1990s
>> > rs-274d board iiuc.
>> >
>> > Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file
>> in
>> > conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and
>> > translate2coralEDA (available on github).
>> >
>> > translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal
>> > pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular,
>> > etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be
>> > able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add
>> > drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell
>> > swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information.
>> >
>> > Good luck!
>> >
>> > Erich
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de
>> > <mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>> > <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
>> > <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have an old computer project designed in the late 1990s, for a
>> 68060
>> > single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerber files in
>> RS-274D.
>> > But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D format.
>> >
>> > The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, which I have never
>> > found
>> > an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Altium Designer to
>> read
>> > the binary PCB files.
>> >
>> > I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only have the RS-274D
>> Gerber
>> > files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-274X or more
>> modern
>> > standard.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Derek
>> >
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">If the project is non urgent and is not commercial in con=
fidence, i could probably add support to the gerber parser used in translat=
e2geda and translate2coralEDA if i had example files to work with.<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich.</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 May 2019 08:22=
Erich Heinzle, <<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com">a1039181 AT gmail DOT co=
m</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">=
Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will also import gerbers=
, not just viewplot, it seems. You won't need the polygonal flashed ape=
rture support of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non round pibs, i suspect.=
Try impirting directly into the layout tool, then exporting. Failing that,=
InputGerber.c has most of the code you need.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Erich.<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (<a href=3D"mailto:der=
ek AT q40 DOT de" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">derek AT q40 DOT de</a>) [via <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">g=
eda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Erich,<br>
<br>
PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber <br>
correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the <br>
Gerber files in RS-274X format.<br>
<br>
I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older <br>
Gerber file format.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Derek<br>
<br>
On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via=
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
> The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code app=
ears to cope <br>
> with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers=
<br>
> and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb=
<br>
> elegance.<br>
> <br>
> Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with=
<br>
> translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into=
<br>
> pcb-rnd.<br>
> <br>
> I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their <br=
>
> gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashe=
d <br>
> apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a 199=
0s <br>
> rs-274d board iiuc.<br>
> <br>
> Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file =
in <br>
> conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and <br>
> translate2coralEDA (available on github).<br>
> <br>
> translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal=
<br>
> pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular,=
<br>
> etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be=
<br>
> able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add <b=
r>
> drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell=
<br>
> swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information.<br>
> <br>
> Good luck!<br>
> <br>
> Erich<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (<a href=3D"mailto:derek AT q40 DOT d=
e" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">derek AT q40 DOT de</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">derek AT q40 DOT de</a>>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user=
@delorie.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT del=
orie.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>>], <<a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi,<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have an old computer project designed in the late=
1990s, for a 68060<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerb=
er files in RS-274D.<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D form=
at.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, whi=
ch I have never<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0found<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Alt=
ium Designer to read<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the binary PCB files.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only hav=
e the RS-274D Gerber<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-2=
74X or more modern<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0standard.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards,<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Derek<br>
> <br>
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