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| From: | "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will also import gerbers, not just
viewplot, it seems. You won't need the polygonal flashed aperture support
of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non round pibs, i suspect. Try impirting
directly into the layout tool, then exporting. Failing that, InputGerber.c
has most of the code you need.
Erich.
On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Erich,
>
> PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber
> correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the
> Gerber files in RS-274X format.
>
> I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older
> Gerber file format.
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek
>
> On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> > The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code appears to cope
> > with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers
> > and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb
> > elegance.
> >
> > Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with
> > translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into
> > pcb-rnd.
> >
> > I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their
> > gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashed
> > apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a 1990s
> > rs-274d board iiuc.
> >
> > Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file in
> > conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and
> > translate2coralEDA (available on github).
> >
> > translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal
> > pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular,
> > etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be
> > able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add
> > drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell
> > swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Erich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (derek AT q40 DOT de
> > <mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> > <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>], <geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> > <mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have an old computer project designed in the late 1990s, for a
> 68060
> > single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerber files in
> RS-274D.
> > But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D format.
> >
> > The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, which I have never
> > found
> > an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Altium Designer to
> read
> > the binary PCB files.
> >
> > I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only have the RS-274D
> Gerber
> > files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-274X or more modern
> > standard.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Derek
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Pcb elegance's pcb layout tool "pcb" will a=
lso import gerbers, not just viewplot, it seems. You won't need the pol=
ygonal flashed aperture support of viewplot for a 1990s board, for non roun=
d pibs, i suspect. Try impirting directly into the layout tool, then export=
ing. Failing that, InputGerber.c has most of the code you need.<div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich.<br><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 20 May 2019 17:58 Derek Stewart (<a =
href=3D"mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de">derek AT q40 DOT de</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-=
user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-us=
er AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">Hi Erich,<br>
<br>
PCB Elegance uses Viewplot 2.0, which did load the RS-274D Gerber <br>
correctly, but I need to pay 600 Euros for a Licence key to save the <br>
Gerber files in RS-274X format.<br>
<br>
I will try your utilities, I was hoping Gerbv could lod in the older <br>
Gerber file format.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Derek<br>
<br>
On 19/05/2019 18:30, Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <br>
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
> The now open source tool "pcb elegance" gerber load code app=
ears to cope <br>
> with gerber aperture files. You may be able to load up the old gerbers=
<br>
> and aperture files and then attempt export of rs-274x gerbers from pcb=
<br>
> elegance.<br>
> <br>
> Once you have rs-274x gerbers, they xan be turned intoa footprint with=
<br>
> translate2geda or translate2coralEDA for loading into gEDA pcb or into=
<br>
> pcb-rnd.<br>
> <br>
> I managed to get pcb elegance running under wine on lubuntu. Their <br=
>
> gerber viewing tool seems to cope better with loading polygonal flashe=
d <br>
> apertures than the pcb tool, but this should not be an issue for a 199=
0s <br>
> rs-274d board iiuc.<br>
> <br>
> Failing that, i could try to add the ability to load an aperture file =
in <br>
> conjunction with a gerber file in my utilities translate2geda and <br>
> translate2coralEDA (available on github).<br>
> <br>
> translate2coralEDA exports proper padstacks for pcb-rnd with polygonal=
<br>
> pad definitions, allowing round rect, obround, square, rect, circular,=
<br>
> etc pads, which may not be an issue for a 1990s board, but, you may be=
<br>
> able to take advantage of the padstack prototypes in pcb-rnd to add <b=
r>
> drills to all padstacks of the same geometry, for example, in one fell=
<br>
> swoop, since a gerber layer will not include drill information.<br>
> <br>
> Good luck!<br>
> <br>
> Erich<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:18 Derek Stewart (<a href=3D"mailto:derek AT q40 DOT d=
e" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">derek AT q40 DOT de</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:derek AT q40 DOT de" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no=
referrer">derek AT q40 DOT de</a>>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT co=
m" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>>], <<a href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-user AT delorie=
.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi,<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have an old computer project designed in the late=
1990s, for a 68060<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0single board computer, I used to produce, from Gerb=
er files in RS-274D.<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0But not many PCB manufacturers use the RS-274D form=
at.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The Gerber files were produced in PCAD for DOS, whi=
ch I have never<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0found<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0an implementation of PCAD, Protel, Tango PCB or Alt=
ium Designer to read<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the binary PCB files.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I would like to make some more PCBs, but I only hav=
e the RS-274D Gerber<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0files, what is hte best way to convert them to RS-2=
74X or more modern<br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0standard.<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Regards,<br>
> <br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Derek<br>
> <br>
</blockquote></div>
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