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On 3/16/19 10:24 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote am 15. March 2019:
>
>> Did anybody mention Dia?
> This would be my suggestion, too.
> Dia is geared toward flow charts much like gschem is geared toward
> electronic schematics. There are actually several libraries of
> electronics symbols available in Dia. However, doing serious EDA would
> be quite a hassle when compared with geda or kicad.
>
> There are lots of options for the design of flow charts available. More
> than 25 kinds of arrow heads, bezier lines, even bezier based polygons,
> all fonts installed on your computer, etc.
> See the attached sample.
>
> The UI of Dia is a little old school. It is all about dialogs popping up.
> Geda users should feel familiar with this style ;-)
> Development sort of stalled about ten years ago. This essentially
> affects mainly users of Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac OSX. The latest
> versions Dia runs on are apparently win2k and Mountain Lion. Geda users
> should feel familiar with this kind of situation, too...
>
>
>>   http://dia-installer.de/
> The application is included in most (all?) major linux distros.
>
> ---<)kaimartin(>---

I checked my Slackware 14.2 Linux system and dia is not included (so not 
"all?"). However, the slackbuilds.org site does have dia 0.97.3 for 
download. Here is what the SB.o dia page has to say about dia:

    Dia is an application for creating technical diagrams. Its interface and
    features are loosely patterned after the Windows program Visio. Its features
    include multiple-page printing, export to many formats (EPS, SVG, CGM and
    PNG) and the ability to use custom shapes created by the user as simple XML
    descriptions. Dia is useful for drawing UML diagrams, network maps and
    flowcharts.

Sounds interesting. Especially the vector graphics format exports (i.e. 
EPS). That makes it easy to import into pstoedit and convert it to many 
formats, such as DXF. I will have to download dia and try it out. You 
can't have too many tools.

HTH.

Girvin Herr



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/16/19 10:24 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak
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      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote am 15. March 2019:

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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Did anybody mention Dia?
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This would be my suggestion, too. 
Dia is geared toward flow charts much like gschem is geared toward
electronic schematics. There are actually several libraries of
electronics symbols available in Dia. However, doing serious EDA would
be quite a hassle when compared with geda or kicad.

There are lots of options for the design of flow charts available. More
than 25 kinds of arrow heads, bezier lines, even bezier based polygons,
all fonts installed on your computer, etc.
See the attached sample.

The UI of Dia is a little old school. It is all about dialogs popping up.
Geda users should feel familiar with this style ;-)
Development sort of stalled about ten years ago. This essentially
affects mainly users of Microsoft Windows and Apple Mac OSX. The latest
versions Dia runs on are apparently win2k and Mountain Lion. Geda users
should feel familiar with this kind of situation, too...


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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://dia-installer.de/">http://dia-installer.de/</a>
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
The application is included in most (all?) major linux distros.

---&lt;)kaimartin(&gt;---</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p>I checked my Slackware 14.2 Linux system and dia is not included
      (so not "all?"). However, the slackbuilds.org site does have dia
      0.97.3 for download. Here is what the SB.o dia page has to say
      about dia:</p>
    <blockquote>
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dia is an application for creating technical diagrams. Its interface and
features are loosely patterned after the Windows program Visio. Its features
include multiple-page printing, export to many formats (EPS, SVG, CGM and
PNG) and the ability to use custom shapes created by the user as simple XML
descriptions. Dia is useful for drawing UML diagrams, network maps and
flowcharts.
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Sounds interesting. Especially the
      vector graphics format exports (i.e. EPS). That makes it easy to
      import into pstoedit and convert it to many formats, such as DXF.
      I will have to download dia and try it out. You can't have too
      many tools.<br>
    </p>
    <p class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">HTH.</p>
    <p class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Girvin Herr</p>
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