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Subject: Re: [geda-user] 2-level wire-wrap wire-list generator backend for
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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:20:44 -0400
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> On Mar 23, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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> Greetings,
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> Yes, I know this is old technology, but I have a project which I =
intend to use wire-wrap technology to make a test breadboard. I tried =
the existing gnetlist backends to see if one is already there, but there =
is not. All of them produce a variation of:
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> netname node1 node2 node3 node4...
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> What I am looking for is:
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> netname node1 node2, node3 node4, node2 node3...
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> This is a wire chain where node1 to node2 and node3 to node4 are on =
the first (lower) level, and node2 to node3 is on the second (upper) =
level.
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> Does anyone have such a backend or can point me to one?


I don=E2=80=99t think there is one. In general, we expect the layout =
tool to handle such geometric refinement of a schematic topology.

You could, of course, write something. Exporting a more conventional =
netlist is easy: my OsmonfdPCB back end code is much shorter than its =
GPL boilerplate. If you don=E2=80=99t like Scheme, Xorn is supposed to =
let you use other languages (but I=E2=80=99ve never figured that out).

Ordering the segments seems a variant of the =E2=80=9Ctraveling salesman =
problem=E2=80=9D.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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class=3D"">On Mar 23, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Girvin Herr (<a =
href=3D"mailto:gherrl AT fastmail DOT com" class=3D"">gherrl AT fastmail DOT com</a>) =
[via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
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class=3D"">Greetings,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Yes, I know this is =
old technology, but I have a project which I intend to use wire-wrap =
technology to make a test breadboard. I tried the existing gnetlist =
backends to see if one is already there, but there is not. All of them =
produce a variation of:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">netname node1 node2 =
node3 node4...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">What I am looking for is:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">netname node1 node2, node3 node4, node2 =
node3...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">This is a wire chain where node1 =
to node2 and node3 to node4 are on the first (lower) level, and node2 to =
node3 is on the second (upper) level.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Does =
anyone have such a backend or can point me to one?<br =
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class=3D""></div>I don=E2=80=99t think there is one. In general, we =
expect the layout tool to handle such geometric refinement of a =
schematic topology.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">You could, of course, write something. Exporting a more =
conventional netlist is easy: my OsmonfdPCB back end code is much =
shorter than its GPL boilerplate. If you don=E2=80=99t like Scheme, Xorn =
is supposed to let you use other languages (but I=E2=80=99ve never =
figured that out).</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Ordering the segments seems a variant of the =E2=80=9Ctraveling=
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