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Subject: Re: [geda-user] gedasymbols.org and EDAKrill - need your opinion
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Hi gEDA users,

gedasymbols.org has ~3k footprints and ~2.5k symbols.

Progress on gedasymbols-to-edakrill import: 876 items (footprints and 
symbols) got imported; edakrill now has more than 1k items available. The 
bare minimal import process should be finished within a week or two.
(Help wanted with the tagging.)

Meanwhile, we have still only one vote on what should happen to 
gedasymbols after the import. It's probably worth voting now, before I 
finish the import:

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I plan to import the gedasymbols.org database to EDAkrill (please see my other 
> mail about what EDAkrill is). Any file with a distribution license permits 
> this is a potential subject. After the import, we'll have multiple choices 
> about how to run our services.
>
> After consulting DJ, the maintainer of gedasymbols, I see three possible ways 
> to proceed:
>
> 1. keep them separate services, EDAkrill imports data from gedasymbols.org
>   (and gedasymbols.org imports data from EDAkrill if someone programs it)
>
> 2. merge gedasymbols into EDAkrill, keep gedasymbols as is, but read-only
>
> 3. migrate gedasymbols to EDAkrill, shut down the CVS based service
>
> I think the community should decide: please vote for on of the above options, 
> especially if you are a contributor or user of gedasymbols.org. At the end I'd 
> like DJ to make the final word based on the community feedback/votes.
>
> For me any of these are fine. The import will happen in any case,
> so if there's no decision we will probably end up with 1 implicitly.
>
>
> Some technical details that may help the decision:
>
> - gedasymbols.org uses CVS; EDAkrill uses svn. If we go for 2. or 3.,
> CVS contributors will need to switch to svn or web uploads. Downloads with
> svn should be similar to CVS, just slightly different command line
> (and less commands)
>
> - please do NOT propose switching EDAkrill to git/hg/your-favorite-VCS. It 
> won't happen, and I won't enter flame wars about this; if svn is a blocker for 
> you, then don't use the service, vote accordingly, set up your own service 
> based on different tools, etc.
>
> - other than that I am open to any discussion and questions about EDAkrill or 
> its relation to gedasymbols
>
> - solution 1. is the least intrusive change, but it would be sort of
> effort duplication (which is not necessarily bad)
>
> - in case of 2., we would keep gedasymbols.org for compatibility but we would 
> recommend using EDAkrill - there wouldn't be new uploads to gedasymbols.org, 
> but for example tools and users who got used to make a CVS checkout could go 
> on doing that (but they won't see the new files uploaded to EDAKrill)
>
> - in case of 3., we would probably redirect gedasymbols.org to EDAkrill, but 
> we wouldn't try to keep a compatible web page or CVS.
>
> - how integration is affected: as far as I know only pcb-rnd has gedasymbols 
> integration, and pcb-rnd will have EDAkrill integration too, so there won't be 
> a big change there.
>
> - stability of the service: repo.hu is hosted at a professional server hotel 
> in an air conditioned server room with redundant power (mains, UPS and AFAIK 
> even diesel). Network-wise it is very close to the Hungarian Internet 
> backbone. The international bandwidth is somewhat limited (for financial 
> reasons), but stability is excellent.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Igor2
>

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