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Date:	Sat, 25 Mar 2017 09:08:17 +0100
From:	"Nicklas Karlsson (nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] gedasymbols.org and EDAKrill - need your opinion
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gedasymbols make symbols/footprints available on a per user basis. It is however useful to have symbols/footprints available on category basis for download and per user basis on upload. 1, 2 or 3 I have no good oppinion about.

> Hi all,
> 
> I plan to import the gedasymbols.org database to EDAkrill (please see my 
> other mail about what EDAkrill is). Any file with a distribution license 
> permits this is a potential subject. After the import, we'll have multiple 
> choices about how to run our services.
> 
> After consulting DJ, the maintainer of gedasymbols, I see three possible 
> ways to proceed:
> 
> 1. keep them separate services, EDAkrill imports data from gedasymbols.org
>     (and gedasymbols.org imports data from EDAkrill if someone programs it)
> 
> 2. merge gedasymbols into EDAkrill, keep gedasymbols as is, but read-only
> 
> 3. migrate gedasymbols to EDAkrill, shut down the CVS based service
> 
> I think the community should decide: please vote for on of the above 
> options, especially if you are a contributor or user of gedasymbols.org. 
> At the end I'd like DJ to make the final word based on the community 
> feedback/votes.
> 
> For me any of these are fine. The import will happen in any case,
> so if there's no decision we will probably end up with 1 implicitly.
> 
> 
> Some technical details that may help the decision:
> 
>   - gedasymbols.org uses CVS; EDAkrill uses svn. If we go for 2. or 3.,
> CVS contributors will need to switch to svn or web uploads. Downloads with
> svn should be similar to CVS, just slightly different command line
> (and less commands)
> 
>   - please do NOT propose switching EDAkrill to git/hg/your-favorite-VCS. 
> It won't happen, and I won't enter flame wars about this; if svn is a 
> blocker for you, then don't use the service, vote accordingly, set up your 
> own service based on different tools, etc.
> 
>   - other than that I am open to any discussion and questions about 
> EDAkrill or its relation to gedasymbols
> 
>   - solution 1. is the least intrusive change, but it would be sort of
> effort duplication (which is not necessarily bad)
> 
>   - in case of 2., we would keep gedasymbols.org for compatibility but we 
> would recommend using EDAkrill - there wouldn't be new uploads to 
> gedasymbols.org, but for example tools and users who got used to make a 
> CVS checkout could go on doing that (but they won't see the new files 
> uploaded to EDAKrill)
> 
>   - in case of 3., we would probably redirect gedasymbols.org to EDAkrill, 
> but we wouldn't try to keep a compatible web page or CVS.
> 
>   - how integration is affected: as far as I know only pcb-rnd has 
> gedasymbols integration, and pcb-rnd will have EDAkrill integration too, 
> so there won't be a big change there.
> 
>   - stability of the service: repo.hu is hosted at a professional server 
> hotel in an air conditioned server room with redundant power (mains, UPS 
> and AFAIK even diesel). Network-wise it is very close to the Hungarian 
> Internet backbone. The international bandwidth is somewhat limited (for 
> financial reasons), but stability is excellent.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Igor2


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Nicklas Karlsson <nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com>

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