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Subject:	[geda-user] gedasymbols.org and EDAKrill - need your opinion
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Hi all,

I plan to import the gedasymbols.org database to EDAkrill (please see my 
other mail about what EDAkrill is). Any file with a distribution license 
permits this is a potential subject. After the import, we'll have multiple 
choices about how to run our services.

After consulting DJ, the maintainer of gedasymbols, I see three possible 
ways to proceed:

1. keep them separate services, EDAkrill imports data from gedasymbols.org
    (and gedasymbols.org imports data from EDAkrill if someone programs it)

2. merge gedasymbols into EDAkrill, keep gedasymbols as is, but read-only

3. migrate gedasymbols to EDAkrill, shut down the CVS based service

I think the community should decide: please vote for on of the above 
options, especially if you are a contributor or user of gedasymbols.org. 
At the end I'd like DJ to make the final word based on the community 
feedback/votes.

For me any of these are fine. The import will happen in any case,
so if there's no decision we will probably end up with 1 implicitly.


Some technical details that may help the decision:

  - gedasymbols.org uses CVS; EDAkrill uses svn. If we go for 2. or 3.,
CVS contributors will need to switch to svn or web uploads. Downloads with
svn should be similar to CVS, just slightly different command line
(and less commands)

  - please do NOT propose switching EDAkrill to git/hg/your-favorite-VCS. 
It won't happen, and I won't enter flame wars about this; if svn is a 
blocker for you, then don't use the service, vote accordingly, set up your 
own service based on different tools, etc.

  - other than that I am open to any discussion and questions about 
EDAkrill or its relation to gedasymbols

  - solution 1. is the least intrusive change, but it would be sort of
effort duplication (which is not necessarily bad)

  - in case of 2., we would keep gedasymbols.org for compatibility but we 
would recommend using EDAkrill - there wouldn't be new uploads to 
gedasymbols.org, but for example tools and users who got used to make a 
CVS checkout could go on doing that (but they won't see the new files 
uploaded to EDAKrill)

  - in case of 3., we would probably redirect gedasymbols.org to EDAkrill, 
but we wouldn't try to keep a compatible web page or CVS.

  - how integration is affected: as far as I know only pcb-rnd has 
gedasymbols integration, and pcb-rnd will have EDAkrill integration too, 
so there won't be a big change there.

  - stability of the service: repo.hu is hosted at a professional server 
hotel in an air conditioned server room with redundant power (mains, UPS 
and AFAIK even diesel). Network-wise it is very close to the Hungarian 
Internet backbone. The international bandwidth is somewhat limited (for 
financial reasons), but stability is excellent.


Regards,

Igor2

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