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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Internal vs. user-visible changes
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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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On Feb 14, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Roland Lutz <rlutz AT hedmen DOT org> wrote:

> In the past, I have followed a very conservative approach about =
user-visible changes.  I improved the inner workings of gEDA/gaf to make =
future improvements easier while putting a lot of effort into not =
changing anything exposed to the user.  When I thought a user-visible =
change would make sense, I would post it to this list to see if there =
was a consensus in favor of it.

You never really recruited users to customize your thing the way Ales =
did for gnetlist. It=92s all your show. A good show, but nobody=92s =
vision covers the whole gEDA landscape.

>=20
> The problem is that this didn't work.  For any proposal, even for =
features which have been requested by many users, there were some people =
opposing them because they would have preferred me to implement it =
another way; at the same time, people kept flaming me about internal =
changes which didn't affect them at all.
>=20

=93Internal changes=94. Your head is in the developer/consumer model, =
not the toolkit for users model.

> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>> Let's assume users weight refactorings and cleanups and =
elegance-of-code a bit lower than actual features they need in daily =
use.
>=20
> I think my approach has been wrong.  Instead of offering a solid =
infrastructure and waiting for the actual solutions to follow, I should =
have put equal emphasis on *using* the new possibilities.  There is no =
point in cleaning up the code unless you intend to do something with it.
>=20
> gEDA/gaf now has back annotation, parametric subschematics, and custom =
power symbols without a ":1" suffix.  Expect more to follow.
>=20
>=20

Making a KiCAD rival is not a viable strategy for gEDA.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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