Mail Archives: geda-user/2017/02/14/11:26:15
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On Feb 14, 2017, at 8:56 AM, James Battat (jbattat AT wellesley DOT edu) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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> On 2/14/17 10:29 AM, myken wrote:
>> On 14/02/17 15:47, John Doty wrote:
>>> The problem is that there=92s no clear line here. gEDA isn=92t =
consumer software. Many users who are not core developers are =
contributors, especially at gedasymbols.org. If you expect to be a =
consumer of some integrated thing, gEDA isn=92t for you anyway.
>> Sure, but no new user is a contributor at the beginning of his/her =
interest. They are just looking for confirmation that it is safe to =
invest time into the suite. And believe me listing in on the geda-user =
list will not give you that confirmation. And as a contributor you may =
also not be interested in the development stuff. geda-users, =
geda-contrib, geda-develp, geda-rant.
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>> But then again make a choice. If you all want gEDA to be a obscure =
specialised tool only accessible by the die-hards and core uses, please =
do so. Nothing needs to change then :-)
> +1.
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> And I'll add that I really don't understand why some folks on this =
list take on the attitude reflected in John D.'s comment:
> "If you expect to be a consumer of some integrated thing, gEDA isn=92t =
for you anyway."
> 1) why does a user have to become a developer? Surely you'd get =
satisfaction if the tools that you have invested so much time in are =
useful to other people as-is.
KiCAD is a better tool for you if you want something packaged and =
integrated. But, if you have difficult jobs that are going to require =
you to fill in some blank spaces, gEDA is what you want.
> 2) how do you expect to attract and retain users or developers with =
this stance?
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gEDA attracted and retained *me*. I started out using it to capture =
schematics for ngspice. Then, I was working with a layout contractor =
using PH70, an obscure Lincoln Lab layout tool. I was able to cargo cult =
a back end for that. Then it was IC design review (back to ngspice). =
Then IC design, making netlists for a layout shop using Cadence. A bunch =
of work on schematics for various customers with various layout tool =
preferences. Abstract symbolic circuit analysis with a Mathematica back =
end I wrote. Try navigating that with KiCAD. gEDA covers a very =
different space: that=92s what it=92s for.
John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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