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From:	"Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:11:08PM +0000, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:56:39PM -0700, John Doty wrote:
> >>
> >> On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> as far as I can tell, nobody else understands it well enough to
> >> >> write a back end, unlike gnetlist proper.
> >> >
> >> > How do you think that could change?
> >>
> >> Well, gnetlist had, from the beginning, multiple people contributing back ends. But for years, others have complained they couldn’t contribute because of Scheme. Where are they? Is this new thing actually any more comprehensible than gnetlist to non-schemers?
> >
> > We won't win here, John. People who really contribute, still send
> > their patches directly to me or on launchpad. You can see activity
> > in mainline for the last half a year and come to a
> > conclusion. Sadly, but nobody of the devs who worked on geda-gaf
> > before want to continue there.
> 
> How many people are actually sending you code for geda-gaf?

Why do you always troll me?

OK, just FYI, Sergey Alyoshin sent me code from Igor2's back
annotation branch and I reworked it a bit to make things look
cleaner, though stopped due to having no support for this in
mainline pcb and due to current situation in the geda-gaf
repository. I've never published it anywhere but can do it if
you're suspecting me that I lye (hope this is not so). Mike
Waters, the author of gSpiceUI sent me his spice backend spice-msw
which is refactored version of spice-sdb and I used parts of it in
my refactored gnetlist. Peter Brett has done lots of hard lowlevel
work which greately improved scripting perfomance, the thing users
were complained about in the past. Some people have written me
privately and stated they would like to contribute something in
Scheme, some reported bugs here, some on launchpad. Not many,
yeah, though very valuable. OTOH, we had about the same level of
contributing for years.

The launchpad situation is most irritating. Most of reports and
patches adress gschem and gnetlist. However, nobody wants to work
on gschem in mainline, and there is no point to work on "obsolete
gnetlist" these days so we lose another chunk of contributions.

Does this description suit you?

Thanks

-- 
  Vladimir

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