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On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:

>
> On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> This group has shown almost no interest in features that are needed by IC
> designers if they are not also needed by PCB designers.
>
>
> What do you imagine IC designers need? I design mixed-signal ASICs in
> gschem, and do not perceive any limits. Just another application for a
> complete, general purpose network topology editor.
>
> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>
> http://www.noqsi.com/
>
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>
>
> How about libraries that you can download that don't have naming
collisions with other libraries?

How about complete hierarchical design support with uniquification?

How about Busses? IC's need support for wires,vectors and busses. Gschem
does wires with some graphic support for vectors but nothing for busses.

Gschem supports small data designs. IC designers need support for big data
projects.


John Eaton

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM, John Doty <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"=
><span class=3D""><br><div><div>On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Ouabache Desig=
nworks (<a href=3D"mailto:z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">z3qmtr45 AT gm=
ail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-=
height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-sp=
ace:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">This group=
 has shown almost no interest in features that are needed by IC designers i=
f they are not also needed by PCB designers.</span><br style=3D"font-family=
:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight=
:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-inde=
nt:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"></blockquot=
e><br></div></span><div>What do you imagine IC designers need? I design mix=
ed-signal ASICs in gschem, and do not perceive any limits. Just another app=
lication for a complete, general purpose network topology editor.</div><br>=
<div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0,=
0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:no=
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px"><p style=3D"margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font style=3D"font:12.0px =
Helvetica" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3">John Doty<span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span><span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span><=
/span></span>Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.</font></p><p style=3D"margin:0.0px 0.0px=
 0.0px 0.0px"><a href=3D"http://www.noqsi.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://ww=
w.noqsi.com/</a></p><p style=3D"margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><font style=
=3D"font:12.0px Helvetica" face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3"><a href=3D"mailto:=
jpd AT noqsi DOT com" target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a></font></p><br></span>
</div>
<br></div></blockquote></div>How about libraries that you can download that=
 don&#39;t have naming collisions with other libraries?<br><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra">How about complete hierarchical design support with un=
iquification?<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">How about Busses? IC&=
#39;s need support for wires,vectors and busses. Gschem does wires with som=
e graphic support for vectors but nothing for busses.<br><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">Gschem supports small data designs. IC designers need su=
pport for big data projects.<br><br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Jo=
hn Eaton<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><br><br></div></div>

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