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On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak <kmk AT familieknaak DOT de> wrote:
> Evan Foss wrote:
>
>> There is at least one thread right now where people are just
>> re-re-re-re-re-rehashing
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Rehashing of problem areas serves an important purpose. It keeps the
> issue in the minds of the community.
>
>
>> old fights.
>
> I'd rather see people publicly disagree and reiterate arguments than
> declare certain topics a no-go area and cover the discord with
> silence. More likely than not, the "banned" aspects of the suite will
> remain untouched in the code base indefinitely. Consequently, the
> problems that gave rise to the controversy persist, too.

I was not trying to censor people by banning a topic. Trying to put
some optimism into the dialog.

> This is not just a theoretical scenario I make up on the go. There is
> an informal don't-touch agreement in place when it comes to the
> default library of symbols. Consequently, the library has not seen
> significant changes since about 2006. This would be acceptable if the
> default lib were close to perfection. However, it is far from that. A
> flat, one stage hierarchy places exotics right next to standard parts.
> Digital components by DEC, anyone? This is aggravated by the fact that
> the symbols in the library are not ready-to use for the most common
> purpose (no footprint attribute).

That is a good point. We need a mechanism that lets people who are
other users of geda-symbols mark stuff they have used in production in
each others repo's so we can gather stuff that more than one person
has used and copy it into the library.

> And please don't tell me that gedasymbols.org makes up for the out of
> shape default lib. Gedasymbols is certainly one of the assets of geda.
> But it just does not cater efficiently to newcomers. Consequently, one
> of the immediate benefits of choosing kicad or eagle over geda is an
> immediately usable, extensive library.

I actually feel like we should change the text in the search window so
when a part is not found it refers people to geda-symbols.
"Sorry not found please check http://www.gedasymbols.org/

> The default library of symbols is not the only no-go area established
> in geda country. It just happens to be the one on top of my head.

It is a good area for improvement.

> ---<)kaimartin(>---
>



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