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> >>> Hey, it's software, at least you *can* rewrite it to do anything.  You
> >>> missed the message completely: It's *difficult* to do.  Perhaps you
> >>> could put some effort into making it easier?
> >> 
> >> There's a distinction between rewriting and scripting.
> > 
> > You missed my point completely.  Any software can be, at the worst
> > case, rewritten to do anything else.  Gschem can be rewritten to be a
> > video game.  It's possible.  It's *difficult*.  Saying something is
> > "possible" is a weak excuse to not make it easier.
> 
> You missed my point completely: nobody needs to rewrite gschem to represent any circuit. This is in contrast with pcb, which must be rewritten to handle any printed circuit structure that it doesn’t have a specific feature for.

You are totally right. It is possible to make via/pin/pad but not possible to make the same or different by drawing on the layers.

At the bottom there are quite few drawing primitives. Then there is a need to put the drawing primitives on a layer and group them into nothing/via/element/pin/pad maybe also character. It is also very useful with possibility to assign attributes to at least the groups.

> > I want a schematic editor.  You want a paint program.
> > 
> 
> I want something as powerful and productive as gschem actually is. You want a toy.

If the start point is a structured paint program and the possibility to assign drawing primitives to groups/structures called pin/pad/element/via it is half way to a layout program. There is also a need for a netlist and tell there the connection points are for the rat view.

Nicklas Karlsson

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