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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] pcb import schematic crash, parantheses in netname
From:	"Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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>> If you
>> knew how it worked at all you wouldn't claim that it implements a function
>> for every use case.  It absolutely does not.  If you actually want an idea
>> how it works take a look in src/gpcb_menu.res.in, and you'll see that all
>> the operations defined in the menus are implemented in terms of sequences
>> of fundamental actions.
>
> You have a different notion of fundamental than I have. What you call fundamental, I call ad hoc. And the proof that I’m right is that your so-called “fundamental” operations do not actually capture the construction of a PCB in general.

This doesn't prove anything, other than that there are some missing features,
which no one disputes.

>>>>>> Do you remember the poll I did a while ago? The results were non-
>>>>>> ambiguous.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they were on a pcb-dominated forum. Not an unbiased sample.
>>>>
>>>> The forum in question is also the largest gschem forum
>>>
>>> Indeed. That’s a problem. We really need to separate the projects. What’s here of interest to a gschem user who doesn’t use pcb? People like Paul Tan don’t seem to post anymore.
>>
>> You're changing the subject from the user composition question and relevance
>> of Kai's poll.  I'll take it you concede the point.
>
> Of course not. You’re not being scientific. It is certain that the population here is not representative of the whole community, and there are strong reasons to believe that geda users who don’t use pcb are underrepresented. You’ve worked hard to make us unwelcome.

You're still trying to dodge the point here, which was this it's the biggest
gschem forum too.  It's more representative than any other.  It's not
scientific proof and no one claimed it was, bit it is a substantial piece
of evidence that you're really twisting and turning trying to come up with
a reason to ignore.  Regarding unwelcoming behavior, nothing the pcb folks
have done is aimed at gschem users in general, people just tend to object to
you in particular, mostly because you're endlessly hostile to pcb and seem
to love implying that it's not worth working on.  It's hard to measure the
destructiveness of that but it's clearly not going to help anything.

My own feeling about you are mixed.  It's awesome that you're still doing
what you do at 80+.  You're *almost* inspirational.  If you were a bit less
stubborn and combative you would be.  Sadly I'm going to put you on filter now
since I apparently have too much trouble resisting your provocations otherwise.
I'll be sure to unblock you if I have any gschem/gnetlist questions :)

Britton

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