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Date:	Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:56:39 -0900
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] exactly how is moving between sides/layers supposed
	to work, and more generally...
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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 8:05 AM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> I am not philosophically opposed to improving the user experience,
> especially if it helps newbies learn the tools faster and easier.
>
> However, I'm opposed to removing functionality just because you don't
> think people "need" it.  Layout is something that's more of an art
> than a science, and people who do a lot of layout get used to the
> quirks and features that work for them.  Flexibility lets them find a
> method that's comfortable for them.

Agree for the most part, though I'm still not seeing the saving using
mark vs. subsequent click in the Import case.

> Removing features because they're not "needed" is like removing orange
> paint because artists can just mix red and yellow.  Sure it's do-able
> but it's not convenient for folks who like orange.
>
> Perhaps it's time for a beginner/expert switch for the menu system?
> So that at first it only tells you about the "normal" ways of dealing
> with things, but you can open up the rest of the features later?

Well I used it ok as a noob, I just ignored most of the broken-seeming
menu items and less visible hotkeys until now missing out on a lot of
convenience in some places.  So the troubles are they look bad at
first glance (noob issue) and I suspect lots of people never figure
them out (noob->expert transition issue).

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