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> > But gschem can do schematic capture for ASIC even though that’s not its target. The difference is that gschem doesn’t limit what you can draw. It’s quirky and limits *how* you can express what you need, but I’ve never found it incapable of expressing a circuit. It gives you a few crude primitives and a few ways to compose more complex objects from simple objects. A few layers of that, and you have a 6000 component mixed-signal ASIC. > > > > Pcb says to the user “my way or the highway”. Gschem says “live with my quirks, and I’ll help you do anything”. > > Not true, I've just gone through the entire format carefully and pcb > actually has very little per-part or per-feature overhead. It's about > as close to a paint program as it can be. It can do lots of stuff, > though admittedly often in quirky ways, just like gschem. Your major > gripe seems to be that you can't "draw" 3D or inter-layer features, > because their implementation is bolted onto the fundamentally layer > oriented design in a hard-wired way. It's a true complaint but not > very useful, because adding 3D CAD would require a total rewrite with > buckets of additional complexity. > > It's completely possible to go on adding features like blind vias > without a total rewrite. > > Britton Did you look at element/footprint file format also? Is it possible to have vias in a footprint? Put the drawing primitives in a footprint at copper or solder mask layer? In such case the only large thing missing is possibility to reference externally defined pins/pads from within a footprint.
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