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On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

>
> > I made branch home/bkerin/require_C99 a while ago and posted about it
>
> Posting patches is not the same as checking with all the distros we
> want to be in, and OSs we want to build for, and users we want to
> support, and see if requiring C99 would be a problem for any of them,
> then getting the maintainers to agree that it's a reasonable
> requirement, then officially making it a requirement.
>
> This process may or may not be easy, but it hasn't been done.
>

Here's the list of which C99 features became supported in which gcc version:

     https://gcc.gnu.org/c99status.html

Here's the release history:

     https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html

I looked through and the most recent significant feature I saw was C99
incline function semantics, supported in gcc from March 2008.  Most of it
much earlier.  There are a couple tiny features with more recent support
(e.g. extended identifiers, not that we want those).

We typically want to support more than just the most recent version of
> anything; usually a couple semi-major versions back.  Especially since
> we tend to have users and developers with old software (including me).
>

My machine is ancient too, but no problem with C99.  C99 is about as safe a
bet as there is.  If you go ask the distros if they have it they're likely
to find the question either confusing or insulting or both.  What gcc are
you using for example?

Britton

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:58 AM, DJ Delorie <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:dj AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-=
style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; I made branch home/bkerin/require_C99 a while ago and posted about it<=
br>
<br>
Posting patches is not the same as checking with all the distros we<br>
want to be in, and OSs we want to build for, and users we want to<br>
support, and see if requiring C99 would be a problem for any of them,<br>
then getting the maintainers to agree that it&#39;s a reasonable<br>
requirement, then officially making it a requirement.<br>
<br>
This process may or may not be easy, but it hasn&#39;t been done.<br></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">Here&#39;s the list of which C99 feat=
ures became supported in which gcc version:</div><div style=3D""><br></div>=
<div style=3D"">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://gcc.gnu.org/c99statu=
s.html">https://gcc.gnu.org/c99status.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div=
 style=3D"">Here&#39;s the release history:</div><div style=3D""><br></div>=
<div style=3D"">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.gnu.org/software=
/gcc/releases.html">https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/releases.html</a><br><=
/div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">I looked through and the mos=
t recent significant feature I saw was C99 incline function semantics, supp=
orted in gcc from March 2008.=C2=A0 Most of it much earlier.=C2=A0 There ar=
e a couple tiny features with more recent support (e.g. extended identifier=
s, not that we want those).</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
We typically want to support more than just the most recent version of<br>
anything; usually a couple semi-major versions back.=C2=A0 Especially since=
<br>
we tend to have users and developers with old software (including me).<br><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">My machine is ancient too, but n=
o problem with C99.=C2=A0 C99 is about as safe a bet as there is.=C2=A0 If =
you go ask the distros if they have it they&#39;re likely to find the quest=
ion either confusing or insulting or both.=C2=A0 What gcc are you using for=
 example?</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div>Britton</div></div>

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