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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] pcb loop paste buffer, renumber (first multi channel
	design, simple rule)
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On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Nicklas Karlsson (
nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <
geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> > >>> I tested and as far as I understand it works like this:
> > >>> x is old refdes number
> > >>> n increase with this value
> > >>> Rx --> Rx+n
> > >>>
> > >>> I have subsheets and numbers look like this:
> > >>> x is old refdes number
> > >>> n increase with this value
> > >>> want this S2/S1/Rx --> S2/S1+n/Rx
> > >>> but get this S2/S1/Rx --> S2/S1+n/Rx
> > >>> and the need is to change subsheet number and use this for another
> channel.
> > >>>
> > >>> For rename to work reasonable well there must be an integer
> difference between refdeses for different channels. Default for subsheet is
> Sn/Sn/Rx there where are two level of hierachy but it use quite a lot of
> space. To add an integer value to refdes use less space. I could add some
> kind of wild card so that both changing subsheet and adding an integer
> value to current subsheet works?
> > >>>
> > >>> I also add comment then this is used. Sometimes layout data need to
> be reused for several channels and in such case it is possible to simply
> select the layout, copy, rename refdeses and paste. Then doing a multi
> channel copy and paste really speed up design work.
>
> > ... so
> > it would have to be a very simple rename rule.
> >
> > MJE
>
> Yes rename rule must be simple just add a number which may be negative or
> positive.
>
> With hierarchical name a number is added in the middle to a sub sheet
> number. Otherwise a number is added to each refdes and in this case it is
> up to the user to choose a suitable numbering scheme so this will work,
> hierarchical refdes flattening is also possible.
>

How do you avoid potential collisions with other pre-existing parts with
the same final refdes?  All designed would have to be compatible with the
rule you choose.  The idea of just adding _copy (or _copy2, _copy3 or
something) sounded potentially good to me.  Refdeses can then be reset
after the fact with a pattern substitution (by script or as a built-in
feature).  This way gives the user both control and exact knowledge of
what's going on.

Britton

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Nicklas Karlsson (<a href=3D"mailto:ni=
cklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com">nicklas DOT karlsson17 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-use=
r AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; =
&gt;&gt;&gt; I tested and as far as I understand it works like this:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; x is old refdes number<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; n increase with this value<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Rx --&gt; Rx+n<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I have subsheets and numbers look like this:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; x is old refdes number<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; n increase with this value<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; want this S2/S1/Rx --&gt; S2/S1+n/Rx<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; but get this S2/S1/Rx --&gt; S2/S1+n/Rx<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; and the need is to change subsheet number and use this fo=
r another channel.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; For rename to work reasonable well there must be an integ=
er difference between refdeses for different channels. Default for subsheet=
 is Sn/Sn/Rx there where are two level of hierachy but it use quite a lot o=
f space. To add an integer value to refdes use less space. I could add some=
 kind of wild card so that both changing subsheet and adding an integer val=
ue to current subsheet works?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I also add comment then this is used. Sometimes layout da=
ta need to be reused for several channels and in such case it is possible t=
o simply select the layout, copy, rename refdeses and paste. Then doing a m=
ulti channel copy and paste really speed up design work.<br>
<br>
&gt; ... so<br>
&gt; it would have to be a very simple rename rule.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; MJE<br>
<br>
Yes rename rule must be simple just add a number which may be negative or p=
ositive.<br>
<br>
With hierarchical name a number is added in the middle to a sub sheet numbe=
r. Otherwise a number is added to each refdes and in this case it is up to =
the user to choose a suitable numbering scheme so this will work, hierarchi=
cal refdes flattening is also possible.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
 style=3D"">How do you avoid potential collisions with other pre-existing p=
arts with the same final refdes?=C2=A0 All designed would have to be compat=
ible with the rule you choose.=C2=A0 The idea of just adding _copy (or _cop=
y2, _copy3 or something) sounded potentially good to me.=C2=A0 Refdeses can=
 then be reset after the fact with a pattern substitution (by script or as =
a built-in feature).=C2=A0 This way gives the user both control and exact k=
nowledge of what&#39;s going on.</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=
=3D"">Britton</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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