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Subject: Re: [geda-user] (SQL file open/save)

Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 09:18:38 +0000

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> On 8 Jan 2016, at 07:30, Britton Kerin (britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Sabin Iacob (iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info =
<mailto:iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info>) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com =
<mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com =
<mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
> =20
> (ubiquitous library support, easy-ish to parse and modify with awk &
> friends for people who are so inclined), it will degenerate into
> unproductive holy wars (see previous pushes for lua as the file =
format,
>=20
> lua as the file format is a very different proposition, since it =
doesn't get you portability to anything besides lua

Sorry, I don=E2=80=99t want to start another argument, but this is =
wrong.  In this context Lua is just a self-contained parsing library, =
like YAML and of comparable size.  The fact that it also gives you =
embedded scripting ability is besides the point.

chris AT minime:~/src$ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0=20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 182356 2011-07-27 12:28 =
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0

chris AT minime:~/src$ ldd !$
ldd /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0
	linux-gate.so.1 =3D>  (0x00fad000)
	libm.so.6 =3D> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00da4000)
	libdl.so.2 =3D> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x0091b000)
	libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x0014c000)
	/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0038b000)

chris AT minime:~/src$ ls -l /usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2=20
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 124236 2011-06-03 12:35 =
/usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2

chris AT minime:~/src$ ldd !$
ldd /usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2
	linux-gate.so.1 =3D>  (0x00f09000)
	libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00cc5000)
	/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00906000)

Chris
=E2=80=94
Chris Smith <space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com>



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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 8 Jan 2016, at 07:30, Britton Kerin (<a =
href=3D"mailto:britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com" =
class=3D"">britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><div class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Sabin =
Iacob (<a href=3D"mailto:iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info" =
class=3D"">iacobs AT m0n5t3r DOT info</a>) [via<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, =
204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: =
1ex;">&nbsp;</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;">(ubiquitous library support, easy-ish to parse and =
modify with awk &amp;<br class=3D"">friends for people who are so =
inclined), it will degenerate into<br class=3D"">unproductive holy wars =
(see previous pushes for lua as the file format,<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">lua as the file format is a very different proposition, since =
it doesn't get you portability to anything besides =
lua</div></div></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>Sorry, I =
don=E2=80=99t want to start another argument, but this is wrong. =
&nbsp;In this context Lua is just a self-contained parsing library, like =
YAML and of comparable size. &nbsp;The fact that it also gives you =
embedded scripting ability is besides the point.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><div>chris AT minime:~/src$ ls -l =
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0&nbsp;</div><div>-rw-r--r-- 1 =
root root 182356 2011-07-27 12:28 =
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>chris AT minime:~/src$ ldd !$</div><div>ldd =
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblua5.1.so.0.0.0</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>linux-gate.so.1 =3D&gt; &nbsp;(0x00fad000)</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>libm.so.6 =
=3D&gt; /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00da4000)</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>libdl.so.2 =3D&gt; /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 =
(0x0091b000)</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>libc.so.6 =3D&gt; =
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x0014c000)</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0038b000)</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>chris AT minime:~/src$ ls -l =
/usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2&nbsp;</div><div>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root =
124236 2011-06-03 12:35 /usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>chris AT minime:~/src$ ldd !$</div><div>ldd =
/usr/lib/libyaml-0.so.2.0.2</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>linux-gate.so.1 =3D&gt; =
&nbsp;(0x00f09000)</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" =
style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>libc.so.6 =3D&gt; =
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00cc5000)</div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00906000)</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">
Chris<br class=3D"">=E2=80=94<br class=3D"">Chris Smith &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com" =
class=3D"">space DOT dandy AT icloud DOT com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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