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On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 10:12 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 1, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 8:17 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not against people being unix literate. Requiring people to know
>>>> how to use a command line is a good thing but scheme in the core is
>>>> just too far.
>>>
>>> Yet a decade ago this was not a big problem. Scheme gave users the ability to export data to a variety of downstream flows, a unique gEDA capability.
>>
>> For the millionth time I am not trying to remove scheme! There are a
>> lot of contributions there (gnetlist) and I would not suggest even for
>> a minute removing them.
>>
>> The choice of scheme was a mistake
>
> I disagree. It was very fruitful.
>
>> but that is done and we have to
>> keep it now. We should have another interface in parallel to it *not*
>> replacing it.
>
> Well, what about Xorn?

Xorn is one approach but I would rather add to what already exists
than to use your word "dynamite" what is already there. If scheme bent
the shape of the surrounding C then Python will do the same because
the point of Xorn the python.

Plus you need to look back at your records we have had this *exact*
conversation at least once before and I think possibly even twice.

>>
>>> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>>> http://www.noqsi.com/
>>> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>>>
>>>
>>

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