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On Oct 8, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Traylor Roger <traylor AT eecs DOT oregonstate DOT edu> =
wrote:

> John,
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>  By "assuming noble intent", I assume until disproven, that someone's
>  actions or statements are without malice.
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>  I see "good intentions" as the actions taken by an individual. Even
>  from noble origin, they may have deleterious consequences.

I have never seen an actual gEDA problem caused by malice. I have seen =
quite a few cases of unintended consequences. I had some frustration a =
few days ago cleaning up a tangled, tight schematic, where the =
overloading of click and drag was constantly producing actions I didn=92t =
want.

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>  Thanks for your comments.
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> Roger
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> ----- Forwarded message from John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> -----
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> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 15:12:26 -0600
> From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com
> Subject: Re: [geda-user] list not user friendly?
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6)
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> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:23 PM, traylor AT eecs DOT oregonstate DOT edu wrote:
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>> I hope we can all find a way to work together. I'd hate to see these =
tools slowly die.
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> I don=92t buy the notion that fixing things that aren=92t broken is =
necessary to prevent their death.
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>> Ask questions nicely, be considerate, assume noble intent.
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> "Good intentions are the source of more folly than all other causes =
put together.=94 =97 Robert A. Heinlein, Glory Road.
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> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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> ----- End forwarded message -----
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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