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On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 11:49 -0400, Marvin Dickens (mpdickens AT gmail DOT com)
[via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> I use gEDA for commercial purposes. Regarding ordinary users, the majority
> of developers on this list totally ignore us.

Maybe the few commercial users ignore the developers? I was really
surprised a few months ago when someone wrote that he is using gEDA/PCB
commercial. From commercial users I would expect some active support,
that can be active support for other users, promotion, or maybe
financial donations for developers.

>  This is nothing new - It has
> been the dynamic for years and personally, I do not expect this aspect to
> change. The difference between me and HUNDREDS  of users over the last 10
> years is I have managed to figure out how to use the tools without asking
> for help. Say what you will, this list is not user friendly. Flame me for
> stating the facts...

It was my feeling that people on this list really tried to help with
user questions. Maybe I missed a lot, I had not the time to really
follow the list traffic when it was really noisy. But often I saw user
questions and people like DJ or Kai_Martin and others really trying to
help. Of course developers can not start coding whenever something works
not as a user desires :-)

Do you know the gtk list? That is one of the really problematic lists.
Only one GTK core developer seems to be still subscribed, so chances for
getting informations is really not good. There are a few open questions
currently again. There is IRC and a forum also, but I was told that
there is not better support. That is really sad.

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