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Date:	Wed, 7 Oct 2015 11:31:23 -0400
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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Toolkits
From:	"Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Peter Stuge (peter AT stuge DOT se) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>> >> Yes, I think GTK is a bad idea long term (for any application)
>> >
>> > Essentially you're saying that you would like a toolkit with a
>> > lifetime of "forever" - which I can understand, but I also think
>> > it is a bit unreasonable. The world changes and our software will
>> > need to change with it. Not much, but some, every now and then.
>>
>> What is the value of doing a version bump that adds no functionality
>> every time GTK issues a major release?
>
> No value, and no reason, as long as the version we use still works
> and is generally available. I expect that it will be for a long time.

Exactly. Not having to burn time on GTK version bumps that add nothing
but a higher rev number is a good thing. As long as SDL is maintained
in the long run and delivers all the needed functionality it makes
sense. It lets us concentrate on what matters.

>> Most of their new functionality we have no real use for in geda.
>> (PCB is another story.)
>
> At some point, being "modern" is a very important value.

If it adds no functionality why not just rerelease it with a higher
version number?

>> > Yes. Did you look into fltk and solvespace?
>>
>> Solvespace is not a good candidate.
>
> Solvespace is completely unrelated to gEDA and pcb, but it is an
> interesting data point with regard to toolkit use and UI construction.
>
> I haven't used it enough to say that everything it does in its UI is bad.

I dislike it for other reasons.

>
> //Peter



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