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On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 01:00:52AM +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-04 at 01:22 +0300, Vladimir Zhbanov
> (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> > And that's the "success story" of our community.
> > Every smart enough hacker tries to rewrite everything in his
> > favourite
> > language.
> 
> Hmm...
> 
> I do not see much beside plain C and Scheme.
Even the main geda-gaf repository has programs/utilities in C, Scheme,
sh, Perl, Python.
> 
> OK, gnucap is C++. And there was xgsch2pcb in Python. Maybe the toy
> projects pschem and wardana, but I think the authors have spent only a
> few hours on that.
> 
> The "success story" of gEDA/gaf is more that some people like the old,
> ugly and sometimes cumbersome tools and want to avoid all changes.
Could you name any of those bad/evil guys? Let's kill them with fire :)
Or could you propose instead some modern, beautiful (or at least not so
ugly) and absolutely not cumbersome tools lying anywhere around to
replace ours? ;)

> 
> The other "success story" is, that for a long period no one was willing
> to do something at all. Long time Peter C was the only active coder.
> And although he was really smart, using C and avoiding visible changes
> made it really hart for him. For example, he has worked long on the
> cairo drawing for gschem.
Mostly agreed.

> 
> And of course there is scheme, GTK and limited Windows support.
I don't understand, sorry. Is there any 'unlimited' Windows support?
Or do you mean just Windows installer for geda-gaf?

Cheers,
  Vladimir

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