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On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:06 PM, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> > Recent activity fixed some 70 bugs in pcb, which brought several new
>> > features with it, at least one person (Bert) moved his efforts back into
>> > mainline and up to date packages for Ubuntu were built. Worked fine
>> > until one of the traditional admins stopped this and everybody seeked
>> > cover instead of stepping in for continueing these advances. Now we're
>> > back (almost) on square one.
>>
>> Was this stop to make a release or for other reasons?
>
> Here's my side, as I'm the "traditional admin" he's talking about.
>
> During the code sprint (which I missed, as I was away on vacation),
> Markus convinced a lot of developers to write a lot of code and/or fix
> a lot of bugs in pcb and/or gaf.  This was great, and I thank him, and
> all would have been fine...
>
> except for one thing...
>
> Instead of using the existing bug trackers, he created a new private[*]
> bug-tracker/PPA that implies that it's the official gEDA project page,
> and had all the work done in that tracker instead of the official
> ones.
>
> [*] I say "private" because it's owned by him, and not by the geda
>     admin group.

Oh. That... yea I remember that...

> He claimed it was done in the name of openness, but neglected to
> discuss it with any of the other admins, and so far has neither
> explained why he did it (i.e. why something new was required instead
> of using the existing trackers) nor turned ownership of it over to the
> geda admin group (i.e. only he can control it, no other admin can).
>
> The situation now is that there are a lot of bugs in his private
> tracker that are in the wrong state (most pcb ones are "fix released"
> despite there being no pcb releases with them) that are also in the
> official trackers in the wrong state (usually "new" despite being
> committed).
>
> So I come back from vacation to a list full of accusations of
> politicing and hostile takovers, and people asking me if I know
> anything about this.  I don't.  I want an explanation as much as
> anyone, and I'm rather upset that this was done (apparently) behind my
> back and the backs of the other admins.
>
> Did I stop anything?  No, I didn't.  Markus is free to continue
> encouraging people to write code and commit patches, and I hope he
> does.  I've asked him to explain his actions and cooperate with the
> other admins, but that doesn't stop him from asking people to fix
> bugs, the people just need to update the official trackers to the
> right states so we know what goes into each release.

I thought the other launchpad closed down after Markus got admin!? Arg...

I did not associate the two happenings. I was too buried in all the
fighting, politics, and stupidity.

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