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Date:	Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:08:38 -0500
From:	John Griessen <john AT ecosensory DOT com>
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On 10/01/2015 08:44 PM, Markus Hitter (mah AT jump-ing DOT de) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>> In what way do the existing pcb and geda-gaf groups discourage
>> >contributors or deny contributions?
> That's indeed the question. Now you have both, a closed team existing
> for years, zero membership gain in the last five years, coding almost
> halted except for gschem. And you have another team, gaining 5 members
> in 10 days and just as many substantial code contributions (not counting
> mine) in that time.
>
> Compare yourself!
>
>
>> >in that
>> >you need to replicate their purpose (bug tracking) elsewhere?
> The bug tracker is a unified one for all of gEDA. Not very obvious,
> because so far almost only pcb bugs were added there, but that's the plan.
>
>
>> >And if they*are*  deficient, why aren't you proposing instead to fix
>> >them?
> I wrote this repeatedly already. At the risk of sounding like a broken
> record: I tried, and was shown the door. The same happened to many others.
>
> With gEDAhead this problem is gone. gEDAhead welcomes everybody.

So, Markus seems to be advocating more of a fork than a consolidation
of project docs, bug tracks, email lists.  Markus seems impatient
about a FOSS project.

I think talking over ideas and writing up plans
is a great way to get progress for gEDA, and if some good code
gets written on a new fork of gEDA, it will just be more hassle to merge it into
gEDA by being in a separate repository.

gEDAhead is not something
google indexes yet.  Before it does, I ask that the forked project name changes to anything
that is not a superset of gEDA.

Are you the one with the keys to that, Markus?  If so, I ask you.

John Griessen

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