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> I don't want to enter a world where the workflow is a direct flow
> from gschem to pcb. That would be very inflexible. I also don't see
> how it would really be saving anytime in coding.

That is not the case, has never been the case, and nobody is
suggesting that it be the case.  PCB goes through the netlister like
everyone else, and none of the options we've discussed prevent you
from doing things a different way if you want.

If it *really* bothers you, it's all open source - make a copy for
yourself and don't update, and you don't have to worry about anything
changing any more.

What we *would* like to do is expand the tools to allow a wider range
of things to be possible, without stopping the old things from working
or being needlessly complex.  The opposition to *any* change has made
this more difficult than it should be.

PCB's importer is an example of that.  We improved the existing tools
to implement a significant convenience feature, and made it easy for
the user to use.  This doesn't prevent you from using the old gsc2pcb
if you want.

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