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Date:	Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:10:24 -0400
From:	"Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On 07/13/2015 03:41 PM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>   Then the next hard part is people finding time to do the actual work.
>>  Every time all of us have a big conversation about the next big step
>> for gschem or PCB, it ends with nothing (or nearly nothing) actually
>> getting done.  It happens every couple of years.
> 
> Yes well. I have a good feeling about this time. Although that might
> be a side effect of my own intentions.

  I have a good feeling about it too, honestly, because there's a lot
more actual progressive conversation happening this time.

>>   I think what we need to motivate actual development, rather than
>> conversation, is cold hard CASH.  I'll kick in a few bucks for the next
>> round of development, whatever it may be, for gschem and PCB.
> 
> It got a long way with out paid developers. I think kicad got
> basically just as far before CERN got involved and it remains to be
> scene how much farther it will go. At the start CERN just wanted an
> open source project equivalent to Eagle, after they get that who knows
> if they will continue. There are underlying issues remaining with
> kicad's code. eeschema as I understand it suffers the same fundamental
> issues as our PCB.

  Yes it has come a long way, which is great, but I think a bounty for
certain bugs or certain features might still be a good idea.  I myself
know I'd toss a few bucks in someone's direction for the implementation
of some stuff useful in the microwave world, like design aids for
controlled-impedance traces.

  Another very useful thing I'd pay for would be the inclusion of an
attribute in gschem which tells PCB "this net needs to be 20mils" and
have PCB automatically handle that.

                -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

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