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On Jun 30, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> John Doty, From a workflow perspective it would help. The codes
> structure is a whole other bag of worms.

I’m all for the export of neutral interchange formats. Gnetlist back ends for such things are usually easy (unless you ask for data the gnetlist API cannot access).

> 
> DJ, You have added substantially to PCB but the issues we are citing
> were there far far before your involvement. I know you are not a fan
> of when people rip on PCB, I just want to be clear we are looking at
> it and not you.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:46 AM, P. Taylor <phil AT plastitar DOT com> wrote:
>> On 6/30/2015 10:19 AM, John Doty wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Evan Foss
>>> (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com)<geda-user AT delorie DOT com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> John Doty : In the name of a more open workflow I was advocating PCB
>>>>> changing/adding TSV as an accepted input format for the other
>>>>> attributes I was suggesting. The idea being to break out of the
>>>>> workflow issues you see in PCB.
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wouldn’t help in the least bit. The core issue with PCB is that it has no
>>> coherent model of what a PCB is: it’s just a grab bag of “features” with no
>>> foundation.
>> 
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> I always enjoy hearing your outspoken comments on geda/PCB.  But isn't the
>> indeterminate nature of PCB a good thing?  It's abstract _and_ it works for
>> practical physical design.  And its easy to hack and hotwire for different
>> situations.
>> 
>> The foundation is clearly there: it's the code and the file formats.  It
>> works and that's why we like it.
>> 
>> There are highly determinate commercial offerings.  Yet PCB is the maximum
>> software attainable by a small number of uncoordinated programmers,
>> particularly when one considers that there are different desires and
>> philosophies constantly at odds.
>> 
>> Phil Taylor
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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