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Subject: Re: [geda-user] PCB and gschem libraries
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 11:54:28 -0600
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On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Russell Nelson <russnelson AT gmail DOT com> =
wrote:

> Or to say it differently, you quickly get into the long tail of =
electronic components.

In multiple dimensions. Some symbols in the distributed library are =
suitable for Allegro netlisting, many aren=92t. Some work well for one =
or more of the SPICE netlisters. Some don=92t. In my projects, I often =
use a =93spec=94 attribute for secondary specs that don=92t belong in =
=93value=94, but no published symbols have that. Every project needs =
different things from its symbols. It isn=92t just that there are =
billions of different parts in the catalogs (some of which haven=92t =
ever actually been manufactured).

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> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:13 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
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> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Russell Nelson <russnelson AT gmail DOT com> =
wrote:
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>> But you could just as easily say that trying to present the entire =
library to a new user is chaotic. Hrm.
>>=20
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> I think Kai-Martin=92s =93essentials=94 library succeeds rather well =
as a starting point. The hard part afterward is damping down the =
expectation that expanding the library will proportionally expand =
capability. Any common library is guaranteed to fall short of user needs =
once you get beyond the simplest projects.
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> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
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John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
jpd AT noqsi DOT com



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after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Russell =
Nelson &lt;<a =
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wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">Or to say it differently, you quickly get =
into the long tail of electronic =
components.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>In multiple dimensions. =
Some symbols in the distributed library are suitable for Allegro =
netlisting, many aren=92t. Some work well for one or more of the SPICE =
netlisters. Some don=92t. In my projects, I often use a =93spec=94 =
attribute for secondary specs that don=92t belong in =93value=94, but no =
published symbols have that. Every project needs different things from =
its symbols. It isn=92t just that there are billions of different parts =
in the catalogs (some of which haven=92t ever actually been =
manufactured).</div><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 =
at 1:13 PM, John Doty <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><span =
class=3D""><br><div><div>On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Russell Nelson =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:russnelson AT gmail DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">russnelson AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
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nt:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text=
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pacing:0px">But you could just as easily say that trying to present the =
entire library to a new user is chaotic. =
Hrm.</div><br></blockquote><br></div></span><div>I think Kai-Martin=92s =
=93essentials=94 library succeeds rather well as a starting point. The =
hard part afterward is damping down the expectation that expanding the =
library will proportionally expand capability. Any common library is =
guaranteed to fall short of user needs once you get beyond the simplest =
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Helvetica">John Doty<span>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;</span><span>&nbsp; =
&nbsp;<span>&nbsp;</span></span></span>Noqsi Aerospace, =
Ltd.</font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><a =
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