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On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 11:00:30AM -0600, John Griessen wrote: > On 03/05/2015 10:21 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >I use the same averaging trick on my thermostats to get 0.1F readings > >on a 1C-rated sensor. If your sensor isn't noisy enough to use this > >trick, you can always add noise - you're basically building a 1-bit > >ADC. > > The extra noise lets you explore the single bit crossings of your system statistically. > Then you get out of the trap of temperature varying, but not seen crossing single bits > of the system ADC. That's called dithering and it's used on instruments like low frequency spectrum analysers to increase dynamic range. I remember one HP spectrum analyser from the time when these things were carefully documented, adding some bandpass-limited noise around the Nyquist frequency of the sampler but above the displayed frequency range (which was only a quarter of the sampling frequency if I remember correctly). But for very low frequencies, I would these days consider either a high resolution delta-sigma ADC (LTC24xx for example but there are many others), or a time proven solution like a VFC (voltage to frequency converter). Monostable based VFC need a high stability capacitor to work properly, but synchronous V/F (AD652, AD774x) do not need any critical component, and with only two wires for the interface, are easy to isolate galvanically or optically. Gabriel
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