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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] 100 pin pic24 symbol comes out huge
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Thanks guys!  I got it now.  I will check out the symbol generators.  I
like the idea of splitting it up.

My one question is how did you save each symbol block?
pic24_power_ground-1.sym, pic24_ethernet-1.sym...?

DJ, did you assemble that board yourself?


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, <karl AT aspodata DOT se> wrote:

> Rob Butts:
> > I tried to make a symbol for a TQFP100 processor.  I did the standard
> > symbol where I zoomed in five levels and started adding pins; 25 pins f=
or
> > each of the four sides.  By the time I was done I had to zoom out a few
> > times to make the box.
>
> There are symbol generators for that kind of tedious work.
>
> BTW, is there a list of available symbol generators ?
> Thoose I know about are:
>
>  http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/djboxsym.html
>  http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:tragesym_readme
>  http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/pintosym.pl (my projekt)
>
> > When I add the component to a schematic it is astronomical.  How are
> these
> > big ICs symbolized?
>
> You can make a few symbols for different parts of the component.
> Having the same footprint and refdes attribute makes them be treated
> like the same thing.
>
> Have a look at e.g. stm32f100lm.*.LQFP48.sym files in:
>
>  http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/examples.pintosym/
>
> I have made a test board (test.sch) in:
>
>  http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/arm_mcu/
>
> (and, ohh yes, it depends on a few symbols from cvs.gedasymbols.org,
> maybe I should have included them into that directory).
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Asp=F6 Data
> Lilla Asp=F6 148
> S-742 94 =D6sthammar
> Sweden
> +46 173 140 57
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks guys!=A0 I got it now.=A0 I will check out the=
 symbol generators.=A0 I like the idea of splitting it up.<br><br></div><di=
v>My one question is how did you save each symbol block?=A0 pic24_power_gro=
und-1.sym, pic24_ethernet-1.sym...?<br>
</div><div><br></div>DJ, did you assemble that board yourself?<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 13, =
2013 at 4:36 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:karl AT aspodata DOT se"=
 target=3D"_blank">karl AT aspodata DOT se</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Rob Butts:<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; I tried to make a symbol for a TQFP100 processor. =
=A0I did the standard<br>
&gt; symbol where I zoomed in five levels and started adding pins; 25 pins =
for<br>
&gt; each of the four sides. =A0By the time I was done I had to zoom out a =
few<br>
&gt; times to make the box.<br>
<br>
</div>There are symbol generators for that kind of tedious work.<br>
<br>
BTW, is there a list of available symbol generators ?<br>
Thoose I know about are:<br>
<br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/djboxsym.htm=
l" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/tools/djbox=
sym.html</a><br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:tragesym_readme" target=3D"=
_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:tragesym_readme</a><br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/pintosym.pl" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/pintosym.pl</=
a> (my projekt)<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; When I add the component to a schematic it is astronomical. =A0How are=
 these<br>
&gt; big ICs symbolized?<br>
<br>
</div>You can make a few symbols for different parts of the component.<br>
Having the same footprint and refdes attribute makes them be treated<br>
like the same thing.<br>
<br>
Have a look at e.g. stm32f100lm.*.LQFP48.sym files in:<br>
<br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/examples.pintos=
ym/" target=3D"_blank">http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/pdftosym/exampl=
es.pintosym/</a><br>
<br>
I have made a test board (test.sch) in:<br>
<br>
=A0<a href=3D"http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/arm_mcu/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/arm_mcu/</a><br>
<br>
(and, ohh yes, it depends on a few symbols from <a href=3D"http://cvs.gedas=
ymbols.org" target=3D"_blank">cvs.gedasymbols.org</a>,<br>
maybe I should have included them into that directory).<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
/Karl Hammar<br>
<br>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Asp=F6 Data<br>
Lilla Asp=F6 148<br>
S-742 94 =D6sthammar<br>
Sweden<br>
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<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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