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It works!
Thanks Stephen!
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> got it ~ creating a gschemrc in my home is perfect
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu>wrote:
>
>> Rob,
>>
>> You can indeed put a gschemrc into each project to handle stuff that is
>> project specific. However, you can also have a per-user gschemrc in you're
>> home directory. If you put the file there, it will work for all projects
>> that you create and anything in the project's gschemrc will take precedence
>> if there is a conflict. If anyone else uses the system, they have their own
>> gschemrc to customize as they please. I haven't done much with
>> system-gschemrc, other than to customize it by adding/subtracting comments.
>> If you really need to change it, you'll have to change the access
>> privileges with sudo chmod to be world writeable. Just remember to change
>> them back when finished and to save a copy of the original file. You may
>> just break gschem by changing something in this file and then not remember
>> exactly what it was changed from. I would really recommend using
>> /home/yourUserName/.gEDA/**gschemrc. The only time I would use
>> system-gschemrc is in the case where there are multiple users that all need
>> to be constrained to use the same settings for consistency across the group.
>>
>>
>> On 09/18/2013 03:04 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to change the system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don't
>>> have to make up new gschemrc files for each project. It is read only.
>>> Can
>>> I place a gshcemrc file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rob,
>>>>>
>>>>> I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new
>>>>> symbol from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic,
>>>>> select it
>>>>> and click on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar.
>>>>> Then use the File menu to save the symbol in your local library,
>>>>> probably
>>>>> with a new name. Type "en" followed by "et" (and accept the Translation
>>>>> entry box that results from the "et" command.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now you can edit the symbol to you're hearts content. When done, hit
>>>>> "en"
>>>>> followed by "et" to re-hide hidden attributes and translate the symbol
>>>>> back
>>>>> to 0, save a final time and you're almost done.
>>>>> Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to
>>>>> the main schematic and delete the now unneeded "old" symbol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that gschem won't see the new symbol until after the next restart.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem. Now I now where the
>>>>>> symbol file is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch <sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven't followed it
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux
>>>>>>>> user.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this exist?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC
>>>>>>> category
>>>>>>> and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> differ, you're probably better off rolling your own. I would also
>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>> that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the
>>>>>>> .gEDA
>>>>>>> folder found in your home directory. Then when you click on the
>>>>>>> attribute
>>>>>>> Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> This has 2 advantages: 1) You don't have to type them every time,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> 2)
>>>>>>> it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> constructing parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom
>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>> library(s). So, you would add something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (component-library "${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_******directory")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (attribute-name "Vendor")
>>>>>>> (attribute-name "VendorPN")
>>>>>>> (attribute-name "Manufacturer")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>> fictio cedit veritati
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> fictio cedit veritati
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>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It works!<br><br></div>Thanks Stephen!<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 20=
13 at 3:30 PM, Rob Butts <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:r DOT butts2 AT g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>got it ~ creating a gs=
chemrc in my home is perfect<br><br></div>Thanks<br></div><div class=3D"HOE=
nZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Stephen R. Besch <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT ed=
u</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Rob,<br>
<br>
You can indeed put a gschemrc into each project to handle stuff that is pro=
ject specific. However, you can also have a per-user gschemrc in you're=
home directory. If you put the file there, it will work for all projects t=
hat you create and anything in the project's gschemrc will take precede=
nce if there is a conflict. If anyone else uses the system, they have their=
own gschemrc to customize as they please. =A0I haven't done much with =
system-gschemrc, other than to customize it by adding/subtracting comments.=
If you really need to change it, you'll have to change the access priv=
ileges with sudo chmod to be world writeable. Just remember to change them =
back when finished and to save a copy of the original file. You may just br=
eak gschem by changing something in this file and then not remember exactly=
what it was changed from. I would really recommend using /home/yourUserNam=
e/.gEDA/<u></u>gschemrc. The only time I would use system-gschemrc is in th=
e case where there are multiple users that all need to be constrained to us=
e the same settings for consistency across the group.<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 09/18/2013 03:04 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
I'd like to change the system-gschemrc file if I can ~ this way I don&#=
39;t<br>
have to make up new gschemrc files for each project. =A0It is read only. =
=A0Can<br>
I place a gshcemrc file in the gaf folder and have it for all subfolders?<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rob Butts <<a href=3D"mailto:r DOT butts2 AT g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
Great!<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Stephen R. Besch <<a href=3D"mailto:sbe=
sch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
Rob,<br>
<br>
I should also mention that I find the easiest way to generate a new<br>
symbol from an old one is to insert the old one onto a schematic, select it=
<br>
and click on the Hierarchy...Down Symbol command from the top menu bar.<br>
Then use the File menu to save the symbol in your local library, probably<b=
r>
with a new name. Type "en" followed by "et" (and accept=
the Translation<br>
entry box that results from the "et" command.<br>
<br>
Now you can edit the symbol to you're hearts content. When done, hit &q=
uot;en"<br>
followed by "et" to re-hide hidden attributes and translate the s=
ymbol back<br>
to 0, =A0save a final time and you're almost done.<br>
Before you lose track of it, use the hierarchy UP command to return to<br>
the main schematic and delete the now unneeded "old" symbol.<br>
<br>
Note that gschem won't see the new symbol until after the next restart.=
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 09/18/2013 02:01 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
I know where the resistor symbols are in gschem. =A0Now I now where the<br>
symbol file is.<br>
<br>
Thanks for showing me how to add the attributes!<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Stephen R. Besch <<a href=3D"mailto:sbe=
sch AT buffalo DOT edu" target=3D"_blank">sbesch AT buffalo DOT edu</a><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
=A0 On 09/18/2013 01:16 PM, Rob Butts wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
=A0 I know this is a much discussed subject but I haven't followed it m=
uch<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
and<br>
reading the results of a search is confusing this non-guru-linux user.<br>
<br>
I was just about to locate the resistor symbol to make my own version<br>
with<br>
attributes of footprint, part number, digikey part number...<br>
<br>
Does this exist?<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0There are 2 questions posed here. First, is there a symbol for a<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
resistor in the standard library? Yes there is. Look in the MISC<br>
category<br>
and pick one of those as a staring point. The other question is: Does<br>
any<br>
one already have such a customized resistor symbol? The answer to this<br>
is<br>
also yes. However, since attribute preferences and component style will<br>
differ, you're probably better off rolling your own. I would also<br>
suggest<br>
that you add your custom attributes to the gschemrc file located the<br>
.gEDA<br>
folder found in your home directory. =A0Then when you click on the<br>
attribute<br>
Drop down when adding an attribute, your custom choices will be there.<br>
=A0 =A0This has 2 advantages: 1) You don't have to type them every time=
, and<br>
2)<br>
it avoids having slight differences in the spelling of the attributes<br>
when<br>
constructing parts.<br>
<br>
gschemrc is also where you define the location of your custom component<br>
library(s). So, you would add something like this:<br>
<br></div></div>
(component-library "${HOME}/gaf/your_local-sym_**<u></u>**directory&qu=
ot;)<div><br>
<br>
<br>
(attribute-name "Vendor")<br>
(attribute-name "VendorPN")<br>
(attribute-name "Manufacturer")<br>
<br>
<br>
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