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Date:	Sun, 18 Nov 2012 02:32:26 +0100
From:	Markus Hitter <mah AT jump-ing DOT de>
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CC:	Britton Kerin <britton DOT kerin AT gmail DOT com>
Subject:	Re: [geda-user] Thoughts on gschem UI
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Am 18.11.2012 01:13, schrieb Britton Kerin:
> Even a modest amount of work with e.g. blender makes it worth learning
> the keys.  I'm no specialist but I used it make profiles of parts for radial
> extrusion with OpenSCAD, its just not practical to do without hotkeys.

IMHO and ideally, you need no keys at all. Especially not for things 
graphically as simple as a schematics editor. Keyboard keys should be 
optional accelerators and not a neccessity.

Also IMHO, gschem is pretty good already, it's just the default mapping 
which shows it's age. And there is neither an inspector nor a 
right-click menu, one of which is also a standard these days.

Things I've seen only in gschem and (almost) nowhere else:

- mouse button mapping is different from that of an application it's 
often used side by side with, pcb

- two-key menu accelerators

- view changes are recorded in the undo/redo system somehow

- the mouse pointer jumps on some operations - big no-no in modern GUIs

- zooming centers the view somewhere - jumping views are a no-no in 
modern UIs as well

- zooming with the mouse wheel zooms around the view center instead of 
around the mouse pointer location

Some, but not all, are adjustable with presets in .gschemrc already, so 
it's just a matter of choosing the right defaults. IMO, doing so would 
be a pain for one vocal greybeard, but a relief for about any newbie.


Markus

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