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On Nov 16, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:

> John Doty wrote:
>> the gschem UI is what it is, very old fashioned, and trying to
>> improve it by adding "features" has made it harder to use, not
>> easier. 21st century UI's are fundamentally very different. I
>> would support an effort to make a modern gschem.
> 
> I'd love to hear more about this!
> 
> What are your biggest issues with gschem UI?

I have few issues, but I'm an old greybeard. I don't have any issues with a manual transmission on a car either (indeed, it can be advantageous), but I understand that many no longer learn to drive such a thing.

> 
> And how would they not be issues with a modern UI?

If you're not used to how GUI worked circa 1990, I expect the gschem UI is very confusing. For example, it has too many dialog boxes, often unexpectedly modal. There's a dialog to create text, different one to edit text, and yet another to edit text that happens to be an attribute. Then there's a command for rotation. A modern GUI would let you create and edit text in place, and give you an "inspector" that, if text is selected, would let you adjust rotation, size, alignment, font, etc. You also might have shortcuts for rotation and size adjustment, but the universal tool for presentation would be the inspector.

> 
> I'm a very long time pcb user and I have no issues with it besides
> scheme being completely foreign.

Pcb doesn't use scheme.

> I'm a much shorter time gschem user,
> but I don't really have issues with it either - so I'm interested to
> learn how they work (or don't!) for others; maybe things are
> different because of different tasks, or because we understand the
> programs differently. In any case I'd love to hear more details. :)

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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