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| Date: | Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:44:42 +0100 (CET) |
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--=_7f2946567d4c8a7805328f2f=9cc289c6-378c-5f4a-9c05-9d16fd273936_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Currently we have ridiculous situations like that pcb and gschem can't even agree on the same mouse button for panning/zooming. > > They are separate, independent tools with separate, independent histories, both predating modern GUI conventions. Why would you expect consistency here? My two cents - I do not care about independent histories. If developer comes to any other EDA package, draws circuit, then PCB he does not care about such things. First for anybody is usability. And keyboard/mouse operation differences is real disadvantage. Why should I care about inabilitity of developers to agree on UI consistency ? What I want to say - I use geda tools for more than 10 years, designed about 100 boards and have plenty of components in my library. I know perfectly missing features which I would like in both schematic and pcb parts. But I am not able to program patches for such big package. And I hardly convert all the stuff to some other more modern tool. That is why I am interested to extend feature set of geda tools. Maybe it would be worth for programmers to "clone" either schem or pcb, create "new generation" and harmonize UI. Yenya Kasprzak offered students to do some work. And nice interesting features can be found on youtube Orcad tutorial. What I can contribute by is definition of the new features. Without knowledge of schem/pcb internals. If there is some real interest for it. Vasek --=_7f2946567d4c8a7805328f2f=9cc289c6-378c-5f4a-9c05-9d16fd273936_= Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><body>>> Currently we have ridiculous situations like that pcb and gschem can't even agree on the same mouse button for panning/zooming.<br>><br>> They are separate, independent tools with separate, independent histories, both predating modern GUI conventions. Why would you expect consistency here?<br><br>My two cents - I do not care about independent histories. If developer comes to any other EDA package, draws circuit, then PCB he does not care about such things. First for anybody is usability. And keyboard/mouse operation differences is real disadvantage. Why should I care about inabilitity of developers to agree on UI consistency ?<br><br>What I want to say - I use geda tools for more than 10 years, designed about 100 boards and have plenty of components in my library. I know perfectly missing features which I would like in both schematic and pcb parts. But I am not able to program patches for such big package. And I hardly convert all the stuff to some other more modern tool. That is why I am interested to extend feature set of geda tools.<br><br>Maybe it would be worth for programmers to "clone" either schem or pcb, create "new generation" and harmonize UI. Yenya Kasprzak offered students to do some work. And nice interesting features can be found on youtube Orcad tutorial.<br><br>What I can contribute by is definition of the new features. Without knowledge of schem/pcb internals. If there is some real interest for it.<br><br>Vasek<br></body></html> --=_7f2946567d4c8a7805328f2f=9cc289c6-378c-5f4a-9c05-9d16fd273936_=--
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