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Dave McGuire wrote:
> On 10/26/2012 03:00 AM, Gareth Edwards wrote:
>    
>>>    I am getting SO sick and tired of this broken-ass software world
>>> thinking that a package is "dead" just because it isn't crapping out 48
>>> new releases per year.
>>>        
>> ("broken-ass software world thinking"? thanks)
>>      
>    Do you disagree with my implicit assertion that this type of thinking
> is pervasive in the free software world?
>
>    
>> You both miss half my point. What I was trying to point out is that
>> gaf has many known bugs with fixes ready to go that can't be applied
>> to HEAD. Furthermore, since our last stable release, there have been
>> 561 commits to  HEAD; these changes won't be appearing in downstream
>> distributions until we release again. That's before we've even thought
>> about future enhancements and features.
>>
>> In my opinion, both of these are due to lack of active developers with
>> commit access, not because the software is stable - again, in my
>> opinion, it isn't. It's just pretending to be.
>>      
>    My comment above was complaining about the mindset, not trying to
> assert that gEDA had reached "finished" status.  The automatic knee-jerk
> assumption that something is "dead", and therefore should no longer be
> used, because it's no longer under construction, is silly.  What if we
> treated, say buildings or cars that way?
>    
Corporations do treat both buildings and cars that way !

Err ... everything actually.

>    Yes, gEDA needs some work done.  But you know, I use it every day, for
> both personal and work projects.  I depend on it, and I trust it.  And
> when I need help, I can either look at the source code, or ask here...in
> the case of the latter, I never have to wait more than twenty minutes
> for a response.  THAT trumps "constant development" and "new features
> every time.
>
>                  -Dave
>
>    
Somebody else's itch can become our itch if we wait far too long !

Keep reporting bugs ;-)

Bring up all your crazy ideas, somebody will sort them out.

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.

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