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From:	"Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
Date:	Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:41:21 +1030
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Subject:	Re: [geda-help] How to get element outline off-board
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There are two things that play a role

1) the lines drawn on the outline layer define the board extents of the
exported gerbers in due course, and these can be placed well within the
visible working area; i.e. you don't have to make the visible working area
the same size as the intended board, it can be bigger, allowing parts to
overhang the board margin defined by outline layer lines/arcs.

2) the "diamond" which defines the centroid/reference for the footprint
component dimensions does not like being moved beyond the edge of the
working area. Poorly constructed footprints (assembled carelessly with a
final click falling outside of the selected components) may have a diamond
well outside of the parts of the footprint, making the footprint almost
impossible to place near edges of the working area.

regards,

Erich

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:17 Cam (camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm using PCB 4.4.2. When I place an element on the board the program
> keeps the entire element, including the silk screen outline, within the
> board. There are times, particularly with some connectors, when it makes
> sense to let part of the element to extend out over the edge of the board.
> I've looked in the manual and tried various combinations of CTRL, SHIFT etc
> without success.
>
> Is is possible to do this, or should I simply create a copy of the
> element, removing the part of the SS outline that I wish to overhang?
>
> Thanks
>
> Cam Farnell
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">There are two things that play a role<div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">1) the lines drawn on the outline layer define th=
e board extents of the exported gerbers in due course, and these can be pla=
ced well within the visible working area; i.e. you don&#39;t have to make t=
he visible working area the same size as the intended board, it can be bigg=
er, allowing parts to overhang the board margin defined by outline layer li=
nes/arcs.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">2) the &quot;d=
iamond&quot; which defines the centroid/reference for the footprint compone=
nt dimensions does not like being moved beyond the edge of the working area=
. Poorly constructed footprints (assembled carelessly with a final click fa=
lling outside of the selected components) may have a diamond well outside o=
f the parts of the footprint, making the footprint almost impossible to pla=
ce near edges of the working area.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto">regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Eric=
h</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:17 Cam (<a href=3D"mailto:camfarnell AT bitflipp=
er.ca">camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delor=
ie.com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">Hi all,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m using PCB 4.4.2. When I place an element on the board the program k=
eeps the entire element, including the silk screen outline, within the boar=
d. There are times, particularly with some connectors, when it makes sense =
to let part of the element to extend out over the edge of the board. I&#39;=
ve looked in the manual and tried various combinations of CTRL, SHIFT etc w=
ithout success.<br>
<br>
Is is possible to do this, or should I simply create a copy of the element,=
 removing the part of the SS outline that I wish to overhang?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Cam Farnell<br>
</blockquote></div>

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