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Thanks John!
Roger

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 1:19 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu =
<mailto:traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu>) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com =
<mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com>] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com =
<mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com>> wrote:
>>=20
>> Pardon me for being uninformed, but I=E2=80=99ve looked around and =
have yet to figure out
>> exactly what the difference/motivation was for the lepton fork.  =
I=E2=80=99m not being
>> critical, but trying to understand it. I may adopt it in the future =
if I knew what
>> the benefits were.
>=20
> Minor developer here, but mostly a user. I favor Lepton for continuing =
with the original gEDA vision in two ways:
>=20
> 1) It embraces and extends the Guile-based scripting that made gEDA so =
amenable to automation.
>=20
> 2) It=E2=80=99s agnostic about which layout program you use: it has no =
favored layout component.
>=20
> Roland has demonstrated that he can be hyper-productive with his =
Xorn-based gEDA, but I found it incomprehensible. Guile is much easier =
to understand. The layout people I work with all have different favorite =
tools, so decoupling schematic entry and layout is very important to me.
>=20
> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com <mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
>=20
>=20


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class=3D"">Thanks John!<div class=3D"">Roger<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep =
2, 2020, at 1:19 PM, John Doty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" =
class=3D"">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Roger Traylor (<a =
href=3D"mailto:traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu" =
class=3D"">traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu</a>) [via <a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Pardon me for being uninformed, =
but I=E2=80=99ve looked around and have yet to figure out</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">exactly what the difference/motivation was for =
the lepton fork. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m not being</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">critical, but trying to understand it. I may =
adopt it in the future if I knew what</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">the benefits =
were.</span></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Minor =
developer here, but mostly a user. I favor Lepton for continuing with =
the original gEDA vision in two ways:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1) It embraces and extends the =
Guile-based scripting that made gEDA so amenable to =
automation.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">2) =
It=E2=80=99s agnostic about which layout program you use: it has no =
favored layout component.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Roland has demonstrated that he can be hyper-productive with =
his Xorn-based gEDA, but I found it incomprehensible. Guile is much =
easier to understand. The layout people I work with all have different =
favorite tools, so decoupling schematic entry and layout is very =
important to me.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
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line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;" class=3D"">John Doty<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-tab">&nbsp; &nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span>Noqsi =
Aerospace, Ltd.</font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" class=3D"">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a></div><br =
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