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Hi Chad,
In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols from. I wanted more - fx.
newlib. How do I get it?
I have used the instructions in:
http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
to place the following:
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda
CVS CVSROOT scripts www
where /home/geda was an empty directory.
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls
2pad.cgi dilpad.cgi footprint.pcb reindex
cgi-lib.pl eps2png global_list.cgi search.cgi
csv.cgi footprint.cgi make-fp-library symbol.cgi
CVS footprint.html math.pl symbol.html
Can I get from this to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I am
stuck.
best regards
torben
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Chad,
> OK. I will try again.
> torben
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Torben-
>>
>> The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is
>> done so that when you're installing the components, you know the proper
>> orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the
>> design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go
>> either way.
>>
>> Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring out where to
>> place the components and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but
>> with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Many people use a
>> strategy where you try to place the parts such that you minimize the
>> lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange them
>> in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find
>> aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high
>> speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts
>> doesn't matter.
>>
>> --Chad
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad,
>>> Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt R103
>>> have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones are
>>> to be connected to the GND.
>>> I am not an electronics expert.
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Torben-
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial. It
>>>> looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an older
>>>> version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What
>>>> likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was
>>>> redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have
>>>> been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The
>>>> underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have
>>>> been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.
>>>>
>>>> Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the
>>>> connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your
>>>> parts accordingly, you should be fine.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consistent.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --Chad
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>> The link is:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
>>>>> best regards
>>>>> torben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm
>>>>>> not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the
>>>>>> tutorial you're referring to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
>>>>>>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6
>>>>>>> R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is
>>>>>>> placed where R201 was before.
>>>>>>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would
>>>>>>> take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran
>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb once - and it worked.
>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The
>>>>>>>>> first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint
>>>>>>>>> name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it
>>>>>>>>> produces board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so
>>>>>>>>> that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout,
>>>>>>>>> you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select
>>>>>>>>> "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can
>>>>>>>>> paste them into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you
>>>>>>>>> can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements,
>>>>>>>>> as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>>>>>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Next steps:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste
>>>>>>>>>> buffer"
>>>>>>>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your
>>>>>>>>>> existing layout.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and
>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the
>>>>>>>>>> tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and
>>>>>>>>>> the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I
>>>>>>>>>> get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>>>>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>>>>>>>> best ergards
>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any
>>>>>>>>>>>> questions you may have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4
>>>>>>>>>>>> element, so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however,
>>>>>>>>>>>> a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,<br>In gschem =
I only have "library" to chose symbols from. I wanted more - fx. =
newlib. How do I get it?<br><br>I have used the instructions in:<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html">http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs=
.html</a><br><br>to place the following:<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773=
G: ls /home/geda<br>CVS=C2=A0 CVSROOT=C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www<br><br>where =
/home/geda was an empty directory.<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/hom=
e/geda/scripts$ ls<br>2pad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.pcb=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex<br><a href=3D"http:=
//cgi-lib.pl">cgi-lib.pl</a>=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 global_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi<br>csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 footprint.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi<br>CVS=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0 <a hr=
ef=3D"http://math.pl">math.pl</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html<br><br>Can I get from this to a more comprehensive=
list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.<br>best regards<br>torben<br><br></=
div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan=
3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com">f=
riistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large">OK. I will try again.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3=
:45 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delor=
ie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The square terminal generally ind=
icates "pin 1" of the device. This is done so that when you'r=
e installing the components, you know the proper orientation. For some part=
s this is important, like for the opamps in the design. For other parts, li=
ke the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go either way.<br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring =
out where to place the components and how to connect them, kind of like a p=
uzzle, but with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Many pe=
ople use a strategy where you try to place the parts such that you minimize=
the lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange t=
hem in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find aesthet=
ically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high speed (>=
;10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts doesn't=
matter.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32=
AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">fr=
iistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delo=
rie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Should I place R101, R102 and R10=
3 together? And if I do, should'nt R103 have round terminal points at b=
oth ends? I assume that the square ones are to be connected to the GND.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large">I am not an electronics expert.<br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker.charl=
es AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Okay, I=
see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial. It looks =
to me like the first set of figures were created with an older version of P=
CB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What likely happene=
d is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was redrawn when the=
new figures were added, and because the parts would have been arranged dif=
ferently, the reference designators ended up changing. The underlying circu=
it appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have been swapped. Y=
ou can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the =
connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your part=
s accordingly, you should be fine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for =
pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consistent.<br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Fri=
is (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT co=
m</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Cha=
d,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">The link is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large"><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tut=
orial" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutoria=
l</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<b=
r></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2=
, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com"=
target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:ged=
a-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com<=
/a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Are you still working=
through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure what you mean by=
page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you're referring=
to?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 =
PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">fri=
istf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D=
"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tut=
orial.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are pla=
ced together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in th=
e same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take=
one example to see if the confusion is my problem.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
>torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On S=
at, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I deleted all files except Project, one=
.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it worked.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker.char=
les AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The =
second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first time it=
may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name errors. T=
he second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces board.<i>=
new</i>.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't overwr=
ite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do as it s=
ays: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout dat=
a to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them =
into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, if you haven&#=
39;t done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete board.pcb and board.new.p=
cb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, make sure that you ex=
ecute Select > Disperse All Elements, as sometimes the elements will ove=
rlap when they're brought into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (=
<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a=
>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It is r=
ather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">----------------------------------<br>Done pr=
ocessing.=C2=A0 Work performed:<br>5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added =
to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on your file board=
.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data=
to paste buffer"<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.new.pcb to lo=
ad the new footprints into your existing layout.<br>3.=C2=A0 From within PC=
B, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_blank">board.net</a> to l=
oad the updated netlist.<br><br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(boar=
d.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin names of all footprints.=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">First it does not tal=
ly with the description given in the tutorial - I am using the one that com=
es with Ubuntu.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Second=
, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the resistor on th=
e screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get both one.s=
ch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the one.sch to th=
e screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be OK.<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">As I say, I am confused.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">best ergards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br><=
/div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friist=
f AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">It worked. <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:par=
ker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via=
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delor=
ie.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><=
div>Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you ma=
y have.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the issue is that the CONNECTO=
R is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not generating it the way the tu=
torial thinks it should. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking through the =
pcb element footprints, there is, however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2&=
quot;. I suspect that will serve for your purposes. Please try changing &qu=
ot;CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that fix=
es it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis =
(<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</=
a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-he=
lp AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">Hi,<br>This is my first attempt at using geda-help.<br><br>When in=
the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:<br><br>gsch2pcb project<br><br>I get =
the following message in the log:<br><br>CONN202: can't find PCB elemen=
t for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).<br>So device CONN202 will =
not be in the layout.<br><br>The attributes of the connector are.<br><br>de=
vice: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1<br>refdes: CONN202<br><br>I think tha=
t I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?<br>best regards<br>to=
rben<br></div></div></div>
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