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Date:	Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:31:02 -0500
From:	Brian Eldridge <briane70 AT gmail DOT com>
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Subject:	Re: [geda-help] Questions from a noob ...
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Thanks for the reply!

1) Yes, sorry - I didn't realize the popup was a live status - I thought 
it was just the same message every time.  I see what you are saying - 
that's good (and not annoying afterall ;-).

2) I don't know why the tool was segmentation faulting last time I tried 
reading a non-existant page, but its not today.... strange.  I get the 
same behaviour as you describe now - the tool does open a blank page 
with no border.  So that is all fine also.

I think I'm all clear for now - thanks very much for the quick responses!

Brian



On 12/06/2014 01:21 PM, John Griessen wrote:
> On 12/05/2014 02:30 PM, Brian Eldridge wrote:
>> Apologies, resending in plaintext:
>>
>> ====
>>
>> I am an experienced hardware designer who has not worked with gEDA 
>> before.
>> I stumbled upon it recently and am very interested to try it out, 
>> however things
>> are not working seamlessly for me and I'm curious if I can get 
>> answers here:
>>
>> 1) Running under Ubuntu Linux 14.04, I installed the latest version 
>> available
>> there via apt-get install geda. This appears to be version 
>> 1.8.2.20130925.
>> Should this be good enough, or should I try with the more involved 
>> "compile
>> from git repository approach" to get the very latest?
>>
>> 2) Using the above version, and trying to invoke with "gschem 
>> <filename>"
>> where filename does NOT exist, the tool crashes. Am I doing something 
>> wrong?
>> I expected it to create the page, but nothing works unless the page 
>> already
>> exists. Which is annoying for a new design. "gschem" with no arguments
>> creates "untitled.sch" correctly but I'd prefer to be able to specify 
>> the file
>> name as advertised.
>
> Here's a usual scenario, but using v. gschem 1.7.2 (g7c7ad00)
> Your 1.8.2 should be fine
>
> -----------------status-----------------------------------------
> Read init scm file [/opt/geda/share/gEDA/scheme/gschem.scm]
> Parsed config from [/opt/geda/share/gEDA/system-gafrc]
> Parsed config from [/home/john/.gEDA/gafrc]
> Parsed config from [/home/john/EEProjects/tek_7k_flex/gafrc]
> Parsed config from [/opt/geda/share/gEDA/system-gschemrc]
> Library name [gschem-cibolo] already in use.  Using [gschem-cibolo<1>].
> Library name [thru-hole] already in use.  Using [thru-hole<1>].
> Library name [transistors] already in use.  Using [transistors<1>].
> Library name [pwrgnd] already in use.  Using [pwrgnd<1>].
> Library name [boards] already in use.  Using [boards<1>].
> Library name [probes] already in use.  Using [probes<1>].
> Library name [borders] already in use.  Using [borders<1>].
> Library name [conn-smt] already in use.  Using [conn-smt<1>].
> Library name [ic-gull-wing] already in use.  Using [ic-gull-wing<1>].
> Parsed config from [/home/john/.gEDA/gschemrc]
> Loading schematic [/home/john/EEProjects/tek_7k_flex/alf.sch]
> Cannot find file /home/john/EEProjects/tek_7k_flex/alf.sch: No such 
> file or directory
> Saved [/home/john/EEProjects/tek_7k_flex/alf.sch]
> -----------------status-----------------------------------------
>
> Is this listing above the "annoying status message popup that
> has to be dismissed every time?"  If so, you need to at least leave it up
> until you get a personal work style figured out.  gschem and pcb
> work well inside project directories that have some config files
> defined for how things work.  A project dir can have many schematics.
>
> gschemrc is a config file I recommend using.  Here's what mine looks 
> like:
>
> cat /home/john/.gEDA/gschemrc
> (component-library "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/surf")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/thru-hole")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/transistors")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/pwrgnd")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/boards")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/probes")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/borders")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/conn-smt")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/ic-gull-wing")
> (component-library 
> "${HOME}/EEProjects/ecosensors-pub.git/gschem-cibolo/verilog-ams")
> (component-library "/opt/geda/share/gEDA/sym/verilog")
>
> These libraries above become my always available libraries.
>
> A local gschemrc or gafrc file could overrule those, as happened with 
> the gafrc file
> containing many of the same libraries -- it was read first and 
> overruled the
> gschemrc file contents because the library neme was already in use.
>
> It's really a good idea to have the status window open somewhere -- on 
> a second or
> third screen is a good place...
>
> John

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