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I agree with Wiktor.  FD (or some other DOS) ought to be goal somewhere.

If, however, an XP-based OS remains a hard requirement, a guide for
Windows POSReady 2009 [0][1][2] could be developed.  It seems to be
the last XP-based OS available until 2019.


[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Industry#Releases
[1] http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/downloads.aspx
[2] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle?p1=14086


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Wiktor S. (wswiktorSP AT Mpoczta DOT fm)
[via djgpp AT delorie DOT com] <djgpp AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>> AFAIK Microsoft has clearly state that they are no longer interested in
>> suporting MS-DOS applications on their OSs.
>> And all DJGPP programs are MS-DOS applications that require a full
>> functional
>> DOS environment to work flawlessly, so IMO it becomes very unlikely that
>> the
>> goal of getting DJGPP working on modern Windows operating systems can ever
>> be
>> achived.  I am not opposing on trying to get DJGPP working on Windows 10
>> or
>> similar OS but in consideration of the fact of the small amount of DJGPP
>> users
>> and the even smaller amount of skilled DJGPP developers really familiar
>> with
>> DJGPP internals and Windows internals, this will take at least a couple of
>> months
>> more, probably it will take years.  IMO, an attempt to get DJGPP working
>> on
>> Windows 10 or similar operating systems shall be postponed until 205 has
>> been
>> released.  The over the years vanishing group of DJGPP users do not
>> deserve to
>> wait until the end of days for this release.  I really think that we shall
>> take
>> seriously user questions like this one:
>
>
>
> It's obvious that MS has no intention to bring NTVDM back to its glory.
> But sticking to Windows XP as the "last good OS" is as slow path to death of
> DJGPP.
> If there is to be any future of DJGPP (a very limited one, but still a
> future), the project has to embrace what is still alive: DOSBox and FreeDOS.
> Full compatibility may require a cooperation with those projects'
> developers, and fixing some things on their sides too, but at least those
> *can* be fixed, unlike Windows.
>
> A mid-term goal should be a successful build of DJGPP/gcc/binutils on
> FreeDOS (as I understand it doesn't work right now).
>
>
>
> --
> Wiktor S.
>

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