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Subject:	Re: Random compile errors under WIndows (32 bit Windows Vista and Windows 10)
Date:	Mon, 19 Oct 2015 20:26:54 +0200
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> AFAIK Microsoft has clearly state that they are no longer interested in 
> suporting MS-DOS applications on their OSs.
> And all DJGPP programs are MS-DOS applications that require a full 
> functional
> DOS environment to work flawlessly, so IMO it becomes very unlikely that 
> the
> goal of getting DJGPP working on modern Windows operating systems can ever 
> be
> achived.  I am not opposing on trying to get DJGPP working on Windows 10 
> or
> similar OS but in consideration of the fact of the small amount of DJGPP 
> users
> and the even smaller amount of skilled DJGPP developers really familiar 
> with
> DJGPP internals and Windows internals, this will take at least a couple of 
> months
> more, probably it will take years.  IMO, an attempt to get DJGPP working 
> on
> Windows 10 or similar operating systems shall be postponed until 205 has 
> been
> released.  The over the years vanishing group of DJGPP users do not 
> deserve to
> wait until the end of days for this release.  I really think that we shall 
> take
> seriously user questions like this one:


It's obvious that MS has no intention to bring NTVDM back to its glory.
But sticking to Windows XP as the "last good OS" is as slow path to death of 
DJGPP.
If there is to be any future of DJGPP (a very limited one, but still a 
future), the project has to embrace what is still alive: DOSBox and FreeDOS. 
Full compatibility may require a cooperation with those projects' 
developers, and fixing some things on their sides too, but at least those 
*can* be fixed, unlike Windows.

A mid-term goal should be a successful build of DJGPP/gcc/binutils on 
FreeDOS (as I understand it doesn't work right now).



-- 
Wiktor S.

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