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From: Paul Wilkins <disk AT paradise DOT net DOT nz>
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Subject: Re: DDJGPP+ RHIDE: 3 question
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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:29:58 +1200
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Hans-Bernhard Broeker wrote:
> Paul Wilkins <disk AT paradise DOT net DOT nz> wrote:
>>Starting RHIDE in one of two ways.
> 
>>Start > Run > rhide projectname
> 
>>Start > Run > cmd
>>     rhide projectname
> 
> There's your problem.  You almost certainly don't want to start RHIDE
> in either of those two ways.  Instead, open a command line shell, 'cd'
> to the place you actually want your project to be in, and *then* run
> 'rhide projectname'.  Make that place one devoid of blanks in the
> path, to be on the sane and safe side of things.

I *know* that's the problem, BUT - the installation and usage guide at 
http://www.rhide.com/doc/rhide_1.html#SEC3 doesn't say anything about it.

How is your random XP user going to fix this? Every single user will 
come across this problem and most liklely give up on RHIDE because they 
can't be bothered or just don't have the time to try to get it working.

That's going to turn a lot of people away.

>>Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;c:\djgpp\bin
> 
> I'm reasonably sure that this Path is not what the instructions told
> you to make it.  If at all possible, you should have c:\djgpp\bin
> *first* on the path, not last.

Yes well, a google search for Install DJGPP Windows XP gave me a page called
     How to install DJGPP
     http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/pinzon/csmdsi/html/instgpp.html
so you have their instructions to blame there.

[about editing environment variables]

   o Specify a variable name of 'DJGPP' and value of c:\djgpp\djgpp.env'
   o Select 'Path' (under the 'System variables' section)
   o Click 'Edit...'
   o Add ";c:\djgpp\bin" (without the quotation marks) at the end of the
     value line and press 'OK'

I take it that I should have the djgpp path ahead of everything else?

Other than possible performance improvements, what reasoning is there 
for the change?

> A further note of caution: this is the Win32 / cmd.exe view of the
> environment (detectable by the variable names being lower-case).  You
> want to look at the *DOS* view instead.  You may have to explicitly
> run 'command.com' to get a look at that.  It should be equivalent, but
> it never hurts to be sure.

Both cmd.exe and command.com look exactly the same, even down to having 
the same vesion number with the VER command.

>>As RHIDE is primarily developed for Windows machines, 
> 
> Huh?  Whatever made you think that?

This line from the http://www.rhide.com/ front page made me think that.

     "The original system, RHIDE was written for, is DJGPP. Because of
      many requests and the increasing popularity I made RHIDE also
      available for GNU/Linux."

The "made RHIDE also available for GNU/Linux" is a big clue that its 
primary development was for the Microsoft based OS's.

-- 
Paul Wilkins

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