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Date:	Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:32:39 -0800 (PST)
From:	Thomas Tutone <thomas8675309 AT yahoo DOT com>
Subject:	Re: Is there an IDE for DJ but RHIDE?
To:	djgpp AT delorie DOT com
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Anthony" <akantsel AT integra DOT rmt DOT ru> wrote:

> Sorry for asking the same question twice, but I 
> really want to find a
> *graphical* IDE for developing with DJ on Windows. 
> Last time I got no
> answers. 

Absolutely false.  I answered your question last time:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=54794d769640ea8a&rnum=1

> Does It exist? Does anybody use MultiEdit? 
> If yes, what settings
> should I apply to make it handle projects? To view 
> online help files (those
> .info)? Can I debug with it?

The answers I gave you before for vide probably apply
equally well to MultiEdit.  DJGPP is a _DOS_ based
compiler.  That means it doesn't interact well with
Windows-based IDEs.  Sorry.  So the answer to your
question is that there are no Windows-based IDEs that
work well with DJGPP.  If you need to use a
Windows-based IDE, then use minGW, not DJGPP - after
all, they're both gcc-based.  But if you want to use
DJGPP - and I do, because the compiled code is a heck
of a lot faster than minGW for many projects I work on
- my advice before still stands - use whatever windows
editor you're most comfortable with (vide, MultiEdit,
or my personal favorite, Code-Genie), then just use
make files from the command line.

For your convenience, I've reprinted your previous
question and my response below.

Best regards,

Tom
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"Anthony" <akantsel AT integra DOT rmt DOT ru> wrote
on December 24, 2003:

> I can't make VGui (www.objectcentral.com) to work 
> with djgpp. 

VIDE is intended for the Windows version of gcc. 
DJGPP is a DOS port of gcc.  If you want to use VIDE,
use minGW, not DJGPP.  Or, if you want, use VIDE's
text editor to write your programs, then use DJGPP's
compile (or DJGPP's make) from the command line.

> I create a
> simple 'hello world' project, but the ide fails to 
> build a correct makefile.

VIDE, as a windows-based editor and IDE, doesn't
interact well with DOS programs like the djgpp version
of gcc.  VIDE uses gcc's preprocessor to generate the
file dependencies to create the make file.  So even
that - let alone actually compiling a program - won't
work, as far as I know.

> Did anyone worked with VIde? 

What made you think it could be used with DJGPP?  And
did you ask on VIDE mailing list (see the link on the
objectcentral.com website)?

> May be there are some DJ-speciffic graffical
> IDEs (but RHIDE)?

The _current_ version of RHIDE works pretty darn well,
even if you have Windows XP on your machine.  The
version available on the delorie.com website is out of
date and does not work well with recent versions of
Windows, and perhaps that is why you seem to want to
avoid RHIDE.  To get the current version of RHIDE, go
to www.rhide.com and click on "Snapshots".

Personally, I use a windows-based programming text
editor, create my own make files, and run make from
the command line to build DJGPP programs.  I use
RHIDE, though, for debugging and sometimes for editing
and building DJGPP programs.


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