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From: "Mr. Veli Suorsa" <VJSuorsa AT Surfeu DOT Fi>
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To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il>, VJSuorsa AT Surfeu DOT Fi
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 04:47:01 +0200
Subject: Re: Can you combine DOC- subdirectories
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Thanks for your reply.

>> It is just a waste of time to search documentation from
>> un-standard directories.
>
>Why do you need to search?  The docs directories hold
>printed versions of the manuals.  You are supposed to
>print them, and then get rid of those monstrously large
>files.

I am not a beginner, who read everything, ten thousands of pages, from printed
paper. I use docs from hard drive with programs and keep them in arch ives.


>> >> Directory of C:\DJGPP\GNUDOCS
>> >> BASH-2   04  <DIR>
>> >> FILUTIL3 16  <DIR>
>> >> GCC-2    952 <DIR>
>> >> - Why g77 / f77 documentation is here?
>> >
>> >Because g77 is part of the GCC package.
>> 
>> Should directory's name be C:\DJGPP\GNUDOCS\G77 ?
>
>No, I don't think so.

Why not?
There were only 20 files about Fortran 77 docs.

>> >What's not user-friendly about Info?
>> 
>> So many stars-lines from start page and not even alphapetical order!
>
>They are in the logical order: the Info system itself 
>first (so that you could use Info), then the compiler, the
>library, and the basic development tools such as the
>debugger, then the utilities.

You can do better, I suppose.

>> You should use menus in info!
>
>The stand-alone Info reader was designed to run on
>bare-bones text terminal without a mouse.  If you want a
>more graphical Info reader, get one of those mentioned in
>section 5.1 of the DJGPP FAQ list.

Not a bad idea, indeed. I take a look and try other well modelled programs too.


>> >> and a direct port to Rhide (if possible).
>> >
>> >RHIDE already has an internal Info reader.
>> 
>> Lets take an example:
>> 1) I write a C program in Rhide. 
>> 2) I want to use intent program while writing. What
>> F-key?
>> 3) And read intent's instructions (was it really right,
>> e.g. intent -mh -i1 done.c)? What F-key?
>
>I don't use RHIDE, so I wouldn't know.  The stand-alone
>Info reader has the --apropos option, so "info --apropos
>indent" should give you what you want.  For finding the
>instruction to run a utility, use the option --usage, like
>in "info --usage indent".

Who is expert with Rhide?

>I suggest to read the section in the file README.1ST 
>called "Reading the documentation, or A Crash Course in
>Info".  It describes some of the more efficient facilities
>of the Info reader.

It was not a crach course at all. I don't even get out of Info.

I must tell you an experience two years ago, when I was eating spagetti, when
writing a program. It was so hot that I had to spit out of my mouth and my fork
fasten on to middle of the keyboard and jam my editor. That was a crach. I don't
eat anymore spagetti (sorry italians, no more help) when writing.

>> I can read C library (libc reference) from Rhide, but
>where is Fortran (and pascal and other utilities) library?
>
>They probably don't exist.  You get the documentation 
>which comes with the original GNU packages; whatever they
>supply, you have on your machine.  If they didn't supply
>documentation for some library, it isn't available.

This is recommended new feature in Rhide, that I hope they will do soon.

Thank you!

Veli Suorsa
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