Message-Id:	<200006301632.TAA29161@mailgw1.netvision.net.il>
Date:	Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:33:18 +0200
To:	Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel <kalum AT lintux DOT cx>
X-Mailer:	Emacs 20.6 (via feedmail 8.2.emacs20_6 I) and Blat ver 1.8.5b
From:	"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz AT is DOT elta DOT co DOT il>
CC:	djgpp AT delorie DOT com
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	(message from Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel on Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:59:28
	+0600 (LKT))
Subject:	Re: Sort error in mailclient (!!!!)
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:59:28 +0600 (LKT)
> From: Kalum Somaratna aka Grendel <kalum AT lintux DOT cx>
> 
> But I think that the learning curve might be a bit more steep
> for emacs than other dedicated mailers like PINE etc..

I think RMAIL in Emacs is as similar to PINE as you can get.  Even the
most frequently-used commands are bound to the same keys.

> FWIW I had some problems about getting to use RMAIL but with Eli's help I
> got it right, which shows that if you have someone who nows the stuff to
> help you then using and learning it is fun, otherwise it is a PITA to try
> to find it yourself... 

Actually, what you wanted is clearly explained in the Emacs manual ;-)

> > In my experience, it helps tremendously to have the same familiar
> > editor and UI at your fingertips when reading mail.  For example, I
> > can easily compile a sample program someone posts, look up a function
> > docs in libc.info, search the FAQ, look inside a zip file--all without
> > leaving the editor and having the mail message in front of me at all
> > times.
> 
> hmm..but in the wonderful world of X you can have emacs running and have
> another(as many) window(s) open with PINE and looking at your mesasge
> etc...

In the wonderful world of X (and on MS-Windows, btw), you can have
several Emacs windows (``frames'' in Emacs parlance) be open
simultaneously, one for reding mail, another for reading the docs, yet
another for editing sources, etc.

The important point is that Emacs has so many features that an
integrated mail reader makes it redundant to use another mail
software.

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